High Elf Allied Race Megathread (Continuation)

[Lurklox-emerald-dream]

They share 99% of history and culture. Their only difference boils down to: “MANA-TAPPING BAD, DESPITE IT BEING NEEDED FOR SURVIVAL.”

Yeah. Why are we against more playable races?

[Konkka-wyrmrest-accord]

Yeah. Why are we against more playable races?

Because this suggested AR is terrible, and is just a Horde Race flimsily brought over to the Alliance? Atleast the Void Elves were researching forbidden magic, and are completely and irrevocably cut off from the sunwell.

[Mythliel-stormrage]

OoOO VeRy InTeREsTiNg

[Lurklox-emerald-dream]

Because this suggested AR is terrible, and is just a Horde Race flimsily brought over to the Alliance? Atleast the Void Elves were researching forbidden magic, and are completely and irrevocably cut off from the sunwell.

So what makes it terrible?

[Konkka-wyrmrest-accord]

OoOO VeRy InTeREsTiNg

Better than being literally blood elves, but our only difference is blue eyes. Go play Blood Elves for your elf fix, and let the Alliance have something interesting?

So what makes it terrible?

See above.

[Lurklox-emerald-dream]

See above.

I dont see it.

[Konkka-wyrmrest-accord]

I dont see it.

High Elves are just Blood Elves with blue eyes. They should be a customization option for belves, especially since the faction conflict is dying down.

[Reginageorge-moon-guard]

You implied there weren’t any distinctions to speak of, I provided at least three instantly discernible ones after approximately 90 seconds of consideration. That’s the “and?”.

all you did was comment on the fact that the dalaran SC elves have a unique uniform. that their sole difference is they dont live in quel’thalas they live in dalaran

And as per usual, you miss the entire point while literally talking about it:

The argument is: There are more material and interesting differences, such as culture, lifestyle, ideology and affiliation, that go beyond the reductive notion of alignment dictated by race, specially when we see groups of races cross the political divide within the narrative.

maybe one day youll elaborate for us on the differences

The fact that the divide is predicated by race and NOT ideology IS the issue, in a game about the IDEOLOGICAL differences between two factions, where the racial exclusivity is born of a game play design that DOES NOT represent the reality of the narrative.

by this logic, alterac humans are a viable horde AR on the grounds that they live in alterac and are not loyal to the alliance but the political opinion is enough. despite being physically, thematically and culturally pretty much identical to the stormwind humans you can play as

like it or not blood elves ARE the high elf theme and aesthetics you desire and they are a part of the horde now. you see each faction consists of a multiplicity of races, each with a unique look, theme and story and which each compliment each other and work with each to forge a sense of faction identity. copying a core horde race to the alliance damages the horde as something that should be a unique experience within the horde is made accessible to the other faction

it is fundamentally unfair to expect horde players in general and blood elf players specifically to compromise their fantasy in this game to suit a small number of alliance players who have not reconciled themselves to the reality of how the factions turned out in this game. its just like ion said, if you want to be a high elf the horde is there for you just like if you want to be a human the alliance is there for you

[Lurklox-emerald-dream]

High Elves are just Blood Elves with blue eyes. They should be a customization option for belves

High Elves are an Alliance race though. Hence the blue eyes to differentiate themselves from the green eyed Blood Elves.

[Konkka-wyrmrest-accord]

High Elves are an Alliance race though. Hence the blue eyes to differentiate themselves from the green eyed Blood Elves.

Except they aren’t? They went Horde back in TBC. The Silver Covenant is a flavor, NPC faction. Why have they never shown up away from matters pertaining to Dalaran?

[Lurklox-emerald-dream]

Except they aren’t?

They are.

They went Horde back in TBC.

Blood Elves did, you are correct.

The Silver Covenant is a flavor, NPC faction

Literally every faction outside of Horde and Alliance.

Why have they never shown up away from matters pertaining to Dalaran?

Story reasons.

[Konkka-wyrmrest-accord]

They are.

They haven’t marched up to the king, and signed the papers though.

Blood Elves did, you are correct.

So, High Elves went to the Horde. Since Blood Elves just named themselves as such to honor their dead.

Story reasons.

Really reaching to add a boring, repeat race to the game.

[Fyorsing-sargeras]

You must be new here. Otherwise you would have gotten it by now.

It’s funny because I’ve been present in every High Elf thread, both here and on MMO-C, since roughly WotLK and I’ve never once seen your name.

Please, tell me more about who is new.

all you did was comment on the fact that the dalaran SC elves have a unique uniform.

If that’s all that you gleaned from what I wrote, the issue is your ability to comprehend the written word.

[Lurklox-emerald-dream]

They haven’t marched up to the king, and signed the papers though

They dont need to seeing as how they’ve been Alliance for a long time now.

So, High Elves went to the Horde. Since Blood Elves just named themselves as such to honor their dead

There are High Elves who never changed their name. This is what we want

Really reaching to add a boring, repeat race to the game

Its not reaching at all. Sometimes it is as simple as story reasons.

[Konkka-wyrmrest-accord]

They dont need to seeing as how they’ve been Alliance for a long time now.

Furbolg have been a part of the Alliance since TBC with the Stillpine then. Why aren’t Furbolgs playable yet?

There are High Elves who never changed their name. This is what we want

So, you want High Elves who never changed their name. And that’s their only difference? “I’m different.”

Its not reaching at all. Sometimes it is as simple as story reasons.

Ion already told you no. Everything since then has been the death rattle of a community that can’t accept defeat.

[Lurklox-emerald-dream]

Furbolg have been a part of the Alliance since TBC with the Stillpine then. Why aren’t Furbolgs playable yet?

Same reason the Taunka aren’t.

So, you want High Elves who never changed their name. And that’s their only difference? “I’m different.”

That and for the various other reasons listen in this thread. Other people have their reasons and I have mine.

Ion already told you no. Everything since then has been the death rattle of a community that can’t accept defeat.

Didn’t they also say no to Classic? Look what happened to that.

[Fyorsing-sargeras]

Furbolg have been a part of the Alliance since TBC with the Stillpine then. Why aren’t Furbolgs playable yet?

You say this like those people who are requesting playable High Elves, on the grounds that they’re already members, would then turn around and be against playable Furbolg (who are also already members).

Silly.

[Konkka-wyrmrest-accord]

Same reason the Taunka aren’t.

Right, because like Frostborn Dwarves, and Tsukarr. They’re flavor NPCs.

That and for the various other reasons listen in this thread. Other people have their reasons and I have mine.

They all boil down to. “Lore be damned, let me play my fair-skinned elves on the Alliance.”

Didn’t they also say no to Classic? Look what happened to that.

It took 15 years for that to happen, and after massive amounts of private servers, and a bad expansion. It didn’t happen during WoD even. It was probably done as an anniversary thing.

In any event. You have 14 more years to go, before it might happen.

You say this like those people who are requesting playable High Elves, on the grounds that they’re already members, would then turn around and be against playable Furbolg (who are also already members).

Silly.

I’d rather about 14 more interesting things be added to the Alliance. Than more elves.

[Fyorsing-sargeras]

I’d rather about 14 more interesting things be added to the Alliance. Than more elves.

That’s a wholesome opinion.

[Lurklox-emerald-dream]

Right, because like Frostborn Dwarves, and Tsukarr. They’re flavor NPCs.

For now.

They all boil down to. “Lore be damned, let me play my fair-skinned elves on the Alliance.”

It isn’t lore be damned at all. The lore supports High Elves on the Alliance.

It took 15 years for that to happen, and after massive amounts of private servers, and a bad expansion. It didn’t happen during WoD even. It was probably done as an anniversary thing.

In any event. You have 14 more years to go, before it might happen.

I am pretty positive it will happen in the next expansion.