High Elf Allied Race Megathread (Continuation)

But it’s entirely true. Elves from Quel’thalas are an Alliance race. The entire point of Blood Elves is to be able to play a traditionally Alliance race as part of the Horde in order to artificially boost the monster faction’s numbers.

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I don’t think many people were even asking for those gnomes, either. I mean at least they could wear armor, but that’s also a plus that the mechagnomes bring. Now races aren’t restricted on whether or not they can wear stuff

Let’s be real… EverQuest died out because World of Warcraft had become very popular very quickly. Not because of this silly argument.

As for Rift, I used to play that as well. To be honest, the games wasn’t that great over all and it wasn’t very user friendly in my own personal opinion. Not to mention, WoW was still very popular during the time Rift had been release… being in the age of Cataclysm to Mists.

It’s as I said before. You’re using argument that are unfounded and driven by fear.

I mean they’re not. Their themes are all Horde themes.

I’m sorry, what I read suggested that was the crux of what that paragraph’s message was. I try to keep quotes short and to the point to avoid unnecessary reading for anyone who reads it. The sentence proceeding what I quoted strongly suggested you believed what you’re saying. You know, because it said you believed what you were saying.

If I was wrong in my understanding of what you posted feel free to correct me.

Real talk, this isn’t okay. I’m not even joking, I’m considering flagging you for this and I never flag. This is actually offensive.

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Yeah, but it still shows that clear difference between bringing something really unique, new, interesting, polished, and well made, instead of just… you know… gar… I must stop.

Let’s go back to High Elves.

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The problem is how do you break the current establishment while ensuring both sides feel sufficiently served?
Let us entertain the notion of giving the alliance trolls, then what would the alliance have to give in exchange to make it equivalent?
I vote Worgen.

To my current knowledge, the only tribe of darktrolls left (as they were the original night elves so to speak), was that of the shadowtooth and they were wiped out shortly after. So I am unsure where they could pull more Dark trolls from.

To be fair, the majority of the horde was changed fgoing from WC2 into WC3, and the blood elves have established themselves as savvy enough to understand the changing of groups.
Hence why the darkspear instead of amani.
The orcs being lead by thrall.
Forsaken by Sylvanas, a former hero of their own.
So on and so forth. Blizzrd did at least set the groundwork to justify BE working with the Horde.

Yeah, except for the fact that
Blood trolls are trolls dedicated to the worship of G’huun and blood magic. Unlike the DID and every other race, their origins have them 100% dedicated to G’huun.
They are unlike every other race who has done questionable things but were for all intents and purposes, “good” in some way.

Quit being facetious

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Pardon the attitude man.

You do realize I was referring to your logic yes? How is it that, when confronted with your own logic, you insist on re-affirming your weak stance?

  1. No connection to sunwell
  2. Tentacles for hair

They’re certainly not high elves anymore.

Introduced as neutral from the beginning and were not a pre-established race for years. Good try.

So…implying my father is someone who works at Blizzard is an observation? That does not make sense in any language.

Prove my bias.

Ion: “If you want to play a blonde, fair skinned elf, the Horde is waiting for you.”.
I don’t need to work for Blizzard, they’ve already stated their stance. Of course, you’re not someone who cares who says it, so don’t pretend as if you do bud.

I am sorry I am intimidating you.,

I like the first idea more. Looks neater, but they are titan constructs who are neutral aren’t they?

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They’re not actually.

Horde themes are spikes and bones and wolves and stitched leather, only reason you think it’s a theme of the Horde is only because they’re IN the Horde, but the true Horde theme is as stated above.

There’s a reason Blood Elves have had little to no major role in the Horde since TBC.

The offender is offended, this is new. :mag:

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Wait… so you’re saying that because the Undead were lead by Sylvanas, the Orcs by thrall, and the trolls were the Dark spear, the Blood Elves understood that they weren’t those people and we’re okay that their lands were burned and assaulted, and they’re Kingdom was felled by these races, but wasn’t you bro, so all good. But the Blood Elves draw a line when they have been racially abused by one human who was power hungry and hated High Elves, so all humans and anyone associated with them are bad, no can do?

Such a flimsy argument and makes little to no sense to me personally.

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Those are aesthetics. The core themes of the blood elves at introduction were redemption, pride and rebirth. These are all Horde themes.

Blood elves have actually had the most number of major appearances of any Horde race besides orcs.

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What I said, and I’ll quote myself, was as follows:

A direct referral to the notion I’d presented in the previous post, that if Elfkind and Trollkind were/are engaged in an eternal conflict (as implied by the Warcraft Chronicle) then it makes perfect sense for them to be mirrored.

If Blizzard had actually planned their story decade(s) in advance, it would’ve probably been best if the Alliance was depicted as “the faction for Elfkind” and the Horde as “the faction for Trollkind” – but, as I said, that ship sailed in 2007.

Somehow, this doesn’t surprise me. :laughing:

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We could’ve found another group of true Mechagnomes in Mechagon instead of just… Gnomes… like when Thrall found the Bilgewater goblins back in Cataclysm since the other cartels in-game were neutral.

But like I said previously I don’t wanna derail the thread, so I think we should stay on topic, and they were announced already, nothing will change anyway.

So then you do believe that blood elves joining the Horde was a mistake? So what did I take out of context?

It shouldn’t. Disparaging people’s country of birth is obviously not an acceptable thing to do.

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Imagine comparing the pirates role in the Horde, to the High Elves role in the Alliance.

Alrighty, so High Elves can have themes of remaining loyal to their allies, honor and unity. All Alliance themes. See how story development works?

Does not equal major roles but go off.

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You know? Come to think of it, this is totally shared among every single Horde race, from stem to stern. Hadn’t really considered it in those exact terms though, strangely enough.

Is this a TL:DR of this entire thread?

Plus, If your father worked at Blizzard you’d be posting ‘leaks’ with all the other devs’ kids right now :wink:

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Besides unity clearly not being a high elf theme since a major reason for their rejection according to various Blizzard representatives being a lack of unification, I never actually said High Elves weren’t thematically an Alliance race.

The Blood Elves leading a dis-proportionally large percentage of the Horde’s operations is definitely a major role.

How is that not a perfect recruitment scenario for them?

Since they’re all over the place.

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You know the only source for that claim is a pissed-off line when you click on a void elf too many times, and those are usually not to be taken seriously, right?

Cosmetic choice that’s entirely optional.

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I’m a pale skinned Thalassian Elf with light colored hair and no tentacles on it, i am infringing on the Blood Elf identity correctly?

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