they didnt change themselves. they changed an adjective. the race is high elf
i cant help you if you dont wish to understand how giving an unaltered core race from one faction to the other isnt a problem just because a couple portal keepers in the SW mage district from dalaran exist and you have 3 actual alliance high elves fighting in the faction war
The race is Thalassian. High Elf and Blood Elf are titles for other races to call them.
We arent asking to play Blood Elves on the Alliance. I cant help you if you dont wish to acknowledge there are far more High Elves than the three you think there are on the Alliance.
And theyâre both High Elves.
Theyâll continue until this game dies then. Those âvoid touched traitorsâ are infinitely more interesting and complex than a dumb High-Elf knockoff that forum people are obsessed with.
there is no race in WoW called thalassian
And I understand this. Its not EVERYONE on the WoW team though. Unless you went through and asked each and everyone of them what they thought about you theres no way to say who is and who isnt against High Elves. Ive said this before but I like Ion being in the position he is. He is a pretty dang good developer for WoW. Im just getting tired of people on here that dont want High Elves being added instantly quoting him and saying its gospel. Debate us if you want to debate us, dont cling to the words of one person.
Well, let me know when they do something interesting because thus far theyâve, what, poked a box and then basically done some necromancy and probably made everyone dealing with the Light on the Alliance side very nervous. The Dark Irons have done more in this expansion alone than the Void Elves.
And they are traitors. Thatâs their entire storyline. âPeople mess around with dark magic, get thrown out of town, change side the moment another offer comes upâ
Expansion hub that was designed to be a raid with seemingly no thought put in to usability
Story that drags us through the mud so thoroughly that they had to put in that much work to hope to keep us interested in our story
Once again the writers have shoehorned us into a place where we need the good guys of the alliance to save us
Heritage armour quests that require way more to get than any other raceâs.
I mean fine, I get it, both sides have problems with what they get, just letâs not pretend itâs only one side getting shafted here.
What are you going on about? I was bringing up some of the various charming things that various supporters of alliance high elves have labeled those of us against them as.
SorryâŠQuelâDorei, SinâDorei, RenâDorei. We just try and group them up as one since theres three of them now even though they all have the same lineage.
Alot of them volunteered in a suicide mission in Nazmir. They infiltrated and almost killed Jastor Gallywix at his own palace. They aided in infiltrating Warport Rastari, killed Horde Spymasters who had critical info on the Alliance, planted bombs in the ships at port there, and send Horde Diplomats into the void.
Theyâve done much for the Alliance, more than you gnomes have done.
how? they havent fought alongside the alliance for 14 years. veressa, who is high elven and leader of the silver covenant, an alliance allied faction, is the sister of sylvannas and alleria, has alot more lore than alleria. the silver covenant fought alongside us in so many significant events. did you notice them in the isle of thunder campaign? how about suramar?
How? Because theyâre not a crappy knockoff of Warhammer Elves, and arenât a throwaway faction because the Kirin Tor were neutral.
While I do agree that it does not mean every dev must also agree with Ion, it is still the official stance they took on it at the end, which suggests that at least a ruling majority must have felt similar about the topic. Itâs a common point being made by some people that feel Ion is making all these decisions based solely from his personal perspective, when really thereâs a whole dev team that plays a role in these decisions as well.
so how do you feel about sylvannas, alleria and blood elves?
All of that is opinion. Some I agree with, some I donât.
Overall story arc is bad? Ok. But Zandalar questlines were pretty good. Meanwhile, one Alliance zone is a mess with disjointed questlines. And so on and so on.
What I listed are pure mechanical facts. The Horde got more story in the end. It got resources spent on it through extra questlines and cinematics. And it got mechanical advantage in mount count, which then leads to getting further mounts through achievements. This is not just some detail like a story feeling better, it actually show extra real world resources spent on Horde content.
And letâs imagine what happens if Blizzard plans to even things out by the end of the expansion? Oh, there will be people accusing Alliance bias because of Alliance ends up getting. It already happened with the bee. And it happened in Legion, when we got the Anduin cinematic. Horde conveniently forgot they had an extra cinematic already in the prepatch, and the Anduin cinematic was just a counterpart to the cinematic in which Sylvanas becomes warchief. Oh yeah, Alliance got a escort quest and some extra Artifact power worth a few minutes of farming, and that was enough for Horde players to call bias.
Undead elf needs to get axed
Alleria is cool I guess, make her purple.
Blood Elves? Theyâre regular elves. I already donât like them.
Something any race could have done and been substituted by anything
Which they failed and Mekkatorque, acting alone, nearly managed to pull off and would have succeeded at had the Horde hero not been there
Something any race could have done due to various pre-explained stealth abilities or technology
Something any other race could have done with sufficient stealth
Thatâs the one thing they could do themselves I guess
Oh, wait, shadow priests.
Everything theyâve done so far could have had a shadow priest substituted in for the same endgame
But! If youâre wanting races who overshadow and feel that their volume of being used validates them, then hey, why donât we add another common, re-occurring Alliance-aligned race thatâs shown up as NPCs quite often. Ready?
High Elves!
Who overshadowed practically every other Alliance race that wasnât humans during Mists due to actually having things to do, were in the main daily quest part of WotLK, and had an appearance in a few of the Legion class halls along with one of the most memorable parts of the Suramar questline
There was an interview back in WoD with Ion where they talked about new races and how people were asking for High Elves, Magâhar etc. The devs acknowledged this back then and its probably how they eventually landed on doing ARs. They werent keen enough on High Elves to add them as first round ARs, but it just shows they do acknowledge this request and they could potentially be added in the future. Things have changed drastically over WoWs life. High Elves being playable might be one of those.
I canât wait for High Elves to be added to the game as a playable race.
Orctang. daaaang. Havent seen that name in a long time lol
who cares about mount count if they are just recolors? unique model mounts is what matters and the alliance got access to 1 new mount model this expac the horde didnt. as tarrok touched on, dazaralor is a pain to get around in because it was designed with a raid in mind and the heritage armor prereqs of tauren compared to gnomes is insane. we have 1 cinematic that is debatable if its horde biased. saurfang and thrall are not part of the horde at they moment they are technically traitors, the forsaken that appear are. you even get to team up with thrall and saurfang against the horde as alliance. they also get 30% WM bonus. i see no horde faction bias here