Where am I getting that formula from? The fact that there is not (except Pandas that were specifically designed and implemented to be playable on both factions) one single example of the same race being played on both the Horde and Alliance. I am literally getting it from the reality of the game as it is today and always has been.
Same race? Same faction.
Please note that I was responding to someone trying to use a bunch of examples of “same race/same faction” as justification for “same race/different faction”.
It’s the “current pattern” since World of Warcraft launched. I think that qualifies as a set formula. Subject to change at their discretion, certainly. But also - and just as certainly - the formula they have used for almost 15 years.
you dont have a race. that race and its country and army are aligned with the horde. you have a few individuals. you can count the number of actual alliance high elves in BFA on one hand. lets be honest here
This is head cannon. An infusion of energy doesn’t make you a different race biologically, regardless of the type of energy, Light or Void, otherwise they would look drastically different after the accident, in your idea, light forged Draenei would also be a different race from regular Draenei.
Not that biologically differences matter, High Elves have always been in the Alliance in WoWs lifetime so “same faction” is a non issue.
Headcanon? Those tentacles are headcanon? The story arc, which you’re either ignoring or are ignorant of, specifically shows that Nether Prince in the process of “freeing” them from their physical forms…and it was stopped by the player and Aleria before he could complete it. The only headcanon here is insisting they are genetically identical to the other Thalassian elves.
We still have them in lore, a whole group, even though they arnt very many that are named.
Once again population does not matter- please see Void elves.
Anyway this is a race that is actually divided by their loyalties, much more so than the pandaren. Perfect opportunity for blizz to create a story beyond the race war.
Are you guys going to fight this hard against undead night elves, or LF forsaken?
Void Elves/Blood Elves: “It won’t happen to me.”
Night Elves/Nightborne: “Yeah, that’s what we said too.”
I think this is why I’m not opposed to Void Elves, although I am not a fan of adding High Elves as a playable faction. They haven’t done much with them yet, but they’ve got a “hat” so to speak: They’re faffing around with powers beyond their imagination that can’t ever be trusted one hundred percent. With High Elves there are pretty much the “arcanist” and “ranger” archetypes that are better filled by Blood Elves and Night Elves.
Right so them regaining their Blood elf forms and their “tentacles”(Hair) means they’re biologically different enough to be considered a new race because some ethereal tried and failed?
The point of Void elves was that they’re were just infused with Void and were coping with it with their elven leader Alleria who is also just an elf with Void infusion. They even speak about regaining their “homeland” from Blood elves. New race is a stretch for you to make to try and prove your point which is completely irrelevant since they’ve already been in the Alliance.
It’s really not though, Void elves have been changed on a fundamental and biological level. They are no longer connected to the Sunwell like every other existing Thalassian elf, and have had their bodies mutated drastically from the void. Void elves have purple blood for christ sake, if that’s not a clear sign of a biological difference I don’t know what is.
I wonder if void elves taste like blue berry, or grape.
well there are other options, such as half elves of human+high elf or dragon+high elf. where the available archetype could be radically different, though its rough at this juncture to make any race’s classes radically different since we’re all using the same set of classes - hunters, priests, mages, rogues, being the most common elf types for wow. if you add human or dragonkin to the mix, things could be expanded upon more but not anymore than is already being done.
dont think there’s a way to change the flavor as far as classes are concerned, without some radical addition. which is probably why i represent the second time alliance has gotten blue tentacle people to keep from giving alliance human skinned elves, the first time being the draenei. we apparently love blue and tentacles
i think we could make them look somewhat different using the concepts in the wrathion model (wavy/curly hair and a darker skin tone option)
attempting to pretend the high elves are a true part of the alliance, that nothing really has changed since the days of wc2 is entirely disingenuous. the high elves are not members of the alliance, they are a part of the horde. individual high elves sided with the alliance
Yes. They are not genetically the same race. They were not infused, as Alleria was, they were forcibly altered…and the only thing that stopped that alteration going all the way to them losing their physical forms entirely was the player and Alleria stopping it. But, not before they were transformed into something that used to be a Thalassian Elf. They are not the same as Alleria - period. Tentacles and purple blood ffs.
Did you even take the time to either read through or play through the encounter before you posted this?
high elf is the race. blood elf is a rebranding of the high elves after silvermoon was destroyed and 90% of the high elf population with it
the state of the high elves is the kingdom of quel’thalas, which is currently a member of the horde. not the alliance, who have a few individuals. claiming them to be anymore then that is fanfictions
