Giant strawman.
Can you go back and read the preceding statements I made directly without editing it mentally?
As far as I have seen, the proHelf side continously and repeatedly acts antagonistic. When they, such as yourself, are called out on it, you go into aggressive denial tactics and become combative. Even worse, you then project it onto others. When an example is given to you to demonstrate what you are doing, you misconstrue it as the opposing side being combative.
So?
Just because someone does something means that you need to therefore do the same. On top of this, an accusation of bias does not fly since I have called both sides out on the behavior. You should stop making assumptions when youâve little ground to make them.
You should stop painting people in a way to justify your feelings of them, because it is unhealthy and just creates a whole âUs vs them.â.
I may dislike the way Wanobi speaks, but I do not paint him as antagonistic. I only speak on the behaviors I observe and nothing more.
It is why I address only the argument provided by the person and do not make comments of âWELL THE PRO ELF SIDE SAYS!â.
I donât care. I address what is from that particular person and only speak of âsidesâ when it isbeing addressed by the other individual.
Now we can go around in circles all day where you accuse me of a bunch of things and I shoot them down, and you bring up more things for me to shoot down. Or, you can stick to the arguments at hand instead of arguing about the people behind them.
If you cannot decide what to do its fine, Ill wait for you to make an argument regarding this discussion before addressing you.
Which is a pity.
Blizzard needs to learn to use mid-tier caracteres. I thought 8.0 was going a nice direction for Alliance, but the human potential quickly took over later.
You are partially correct Avarie.
The alliance have children working for them, and many of them are being forced to work for the alliance parties.
Iâve run through that area with all my alts while heirloom leveling. It is a tiresome thing when youâre leveling a DPS class. T^T
Like I said, they need to use mid-tier characters. I was expecting Aysaâs and Jiâs appearance in the boats to mean future plot point, but alas they were forgotten since then.
That wasnât Broflakeâs point though. âThis combative tone doesnât serve to assist your argument. It just comes across as the ProHelf group falling to pieces.â
Heâs implying what many have done before, that for some reason a player who is requesting a race needs to be a paragon of virtue otherwise it lessens the argument theyâre making.
No one needs to put up with any kind of antagonism. None of these arguments by either side need to be said or debated.
Because the simple fact of the matter is that some people are just requesting a race. And ultimately people just have to show up and provide their support for it or against it.
Blizzard decides on the rest from there. The fact that their most recent official response to the High Elf fans were âdonât give up hopeâ Iâd say High Elf fans are in a better position.
Especially since also weâre seeing more new faces that arenât alts pop into the thread for support of High Elves. Whereas on the AntiHelf side it continues to be the same few people regurgitating the same cyclical info or posing as alts to do the regurgitation.
You have moments like the previous thread that only lasted about a month and a half gaining more likes than Lydonâs thread which has been out for over 6 months or something.
All this feedback is going to Blizzard, that theyâre keeping these threads open, and that it isnât dying out means the potential to get High Elves on Alliance added in the future is still on the table.
And none of it has required for one side to be paragons of virtue. Because the arguments donât matter, Blizzard will do what they want to do. If they decide High Elves on Alliance will be in the game then nothing will stop them from doing that.
All that matters is people give their support and show engagement with this race request.
I think it is because it is pretty difficult to write a story out that way.
I mean, a neutral faction that has people playing for both side is bound to create immense tension. You donât want it to break the pandaren race either. SoâŚwhat do you do?
I donât recall seeing children there alliance side, and from the wording it seems like the alliance asked for help but the pandas didnât know they were basically helping in a war.
Theyâre scattered about a bit better than the Horde faction side did, and they use the same lines when you free them IIRC.
Granted, I do agree with you with how the pandaren should view the conflict.
At the time, Garrosh was in charge up until the end of the expansion. Youâd be wary of a side whose leader had a mana bomb dropped on Theramore or whose actions are questionable.
This whole exchange between you and I started because you were trying to protect a well-known antagonistic anti-helf poster.
And the way you went about it was using the same tactics you accused me of doing. Talk about projection onto others.
Even Bourbonboxer has enough sense to see their logic as meme-y and dumb.
Thereâs not much else conversation to be had between us because it only started due to you getting sensitive and combative over my responses to a separate individual.
Responses which were just as apt, but the opposite of what they were stating.
Since I need to clarify further because it seems you misconstrue my point.
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Is just looking to stir stuff up and not contribute to a discussion.
The best way to get someone to stop being antagonistic? You donât feed into it or respond with an antagonistic tactic.
