Hey Blizzard why don’t you release the Mage Tower completion stats?

[Raiimir-stormrage]

@Nihilis-garrosh

We’ve established that’s just your opinion

No, we’ve established it’s a function of hte DPS floor requirements.

@Nihilis-garrosh

Do you not understand spec and gear differences?

Gear is irrelevant. Spec differences I do understand : there’s no way Arcane only has half the potential DPS than Assassination because it doesn’t.

But yet their DPS floor is half that of Assassination. Because that’s the current tuning for Sig.

Because the tuning is wildly off.

@Nihilis-garrosh

whenever you’re proven wrong.

You haven’t proven squat except that you have no clue how DPS checks work. Which I don’t believe, which leaves the simpler explanation : you’re trolling.

[Nihilis-garrosh]

@Raiimir-stormrage

No, we’ve established it’s a function of hte DPS floor requirements.

You’re really not understanding this and it’s really not complicated. There’s no help for you.

@Raiimir-stormrage

Gear is irrelevant.

Yes, I’m sure that’s why people with Timewalking sets were doing objectively more damage than with their SL kits.

@Nihilis-garrosh

My clear time was 11.5 minutes. My guildmate’s was 14.5 minutes. Another UH cleared it in 8.5 minutes. Trying to measure balance between classes based on health pool and time yields no fruit when there is so much variance amongst same specs.

@Raiimir-stormrage

Because you’re not comparing identically geared toons or toons with the same level of gearing.

Double speaking yourself and you’re calling me the troll

@Raiimir-stormrage

Because the tuning is wildly off.

Only by your incorrect definition of what constitutes tuning.

@Raiimir-stormrage

You haven’t proven squat except that you have no clue how DPS checks work.

/smh You’re still the goofball troll you were when we started this conversation.

[Raiimir-stormrage]

@Nihilis-garrosh

Yes, I’m sure that’s why people with Timewalking sets

It’s irrelevant when discussing DPS FLOORS.

Health / Time = DPS requirement.

DPS requirement = minimum DPS to clear the encounter.

Has nothing to do with gear, only with the health of the mob and the time you have to burn it off in.

My god, the trolling is off the scale if you don’t get such a simple concept.

@Nihilis-garrosh

Only by your incorrect definition of what constitutes tuning.

Yes, adjusting the DPS floor is tuning. That often involves 2 things : upping the enrage timer or lowering the boss’ health. Usually they don’t change enrage timers, so all that is left is changing the boss’ health.

That’s literally what tuning is.

@Nihilis-garrosh

You’re still the goofball troll

Dude, you just claimed adjusting a boss’ health isn’t tuning. You don’t get to call anyone troll.

[Nihilis-garrosh]

@Raiimir-stormrage

It’s irrelevant when discussing DPS FLOORS.

“Ability to meet dps check is irrelevant when considering dps floor.”

@Raiimir-stormrage

My god, the trolling is off the scale if you don’t get such a simple concept.

Back at you fam. And I must say you’re doing a rather poor job of it.

@Raiimir-stormrage

Yes, adjusting the DPS floor is tuning. That often involves 2 things : upping the enrage timer or lowering the boss’ health. Usually they don’t change enrage timers, so all that is left is changing the boss’ health.

Please… please, for the love of God… read the tower tuning patch notes. Educate yourself before you spew such silliness.

@Raiimir-stormrage

Dude, you just claimed adjusting a boss’ health isn’t tuning.

I’ve never once made that claim, but you’re welcome to find the several quotes I’ve made acknowledging it’s one single aspect of a multifaceted adjustment. Your trolling is garbage tier.

[Raiimir-stormrage]

@Nihilis-garrosh

“Ability to meet dps check is irrelevant when considering dps floor.”

Yes, variance in gear levels is irrelevant to discussing the floor. For the floor, you’re looking at the bare minimum gear requirement.

And again : Arcane’s DPS potential at the minimum gear level isn’t HALF of Assassination’s, but their DPS floor is currently HALF of Assassination’s.

Facts.

@Nihilis-garrosh

read the tower tuning patch notes.

The ones where health was adjusted on many mobs ?

Those notes ?

Go troll elsewhere dude.

[Nihilis-garrosh]

@Raiimir-stormrage

bare minimum gear requirement.

You’re acting like the fact that there is a difference at all means it can’t be reasonably met. This is a silly idea. You have silly ideas.

@Raiimir-stormrage

Facts.

Smh

@Raiimir-stormrage

The ones where health was adjusted on many mobs ?

The ones that included tuning multiple aspects along with health. You’re tunnel visioning this and it’s making you look silly.

@Raiimir-stormrage

Go troll elsewhere dude.

I’m sorry you’re so triggered at having your bad ideas called out, but I won’t be leaving. Thank you for your input though.

[Klod-area-52]

Seeing the average number attempts to completion per spec would be super interesting.

[Raiimir-stormrage]

@Nihilis-garrosh

You’re acting like the fact that there is a difference at all means it can’t be reasonably met.

Imbalanced is Imbalanced my man.

@Nihilis-garrosh

The ones that included tuning multiple aspects along with health.

Many just got health fixes. Because for many, that’s all that was required.

Which is exactly the issue for Sig Arcane vs Sig Assassination. Sig Arcane has too little health.

@Nihilis-garrosh

I’m sorry you’re so triggered

Says the guy unable to comprehend DPS checks, or so he pretends to keep trolling.

[Petdetective-pagle]

The OP actually helped teach me arcane, so he is more than capable of doing it.

I’m not sure what the point of this thread is.

[Kynthios-thrall]

Out of all the things Blizzard has done wrong lately, the Mage Tower is the only thing I have enjoyed. I only stuck around in SL as long as I did just so I didn’t miss out on getting the Felbear immediately. Now I’m pretty much done with this expansion.

The last time I had the amount of fun I had completing these challenges was probably back in Legion when they first came out. Granted, I only completed the two I really wanted, that being Guardian and Fury, but I still found myself thoroughly enjoying it.

[Nihilis-garrosh]

@Raiimir-stormrage

Imbalanced is Imbalanced my man.

This is a childish outlook my man. Equity =/= balanced.

@Raiimir-stormrage

Many

I love these nebulous quantitaties designed to ignore any tuning change that doesn’t support your narrative. It’s rather entertaining.

@Raiimir-stormrage

Sig Arcane has too little health.

Matter of opinion.

@Raiimir-stormrage

Says the guy unable to comprehend DPS checks, or so he pretends to keep trolling.

The more you repeat it, the truer it gets