I wouldn’t consider fixing situations where the mobs wouldn’t be able to be moved out of the mechanic making the full heal unavoidable a nerf.
That’s what we call a bug fix in Realinda.
I wouldn’t consider fixing situations where the mobs wouldn’t be able to be moved out of the mechanic making the full heal unavoidable a nerf.
That’s what we call a bug fix in Realinda.
We used to know fixes like this as day 1 patches, but Blizzard have been notoriously crap at getting them out quick enough since Cataclysm.
It’s entirely caused by lack of Q&A.
As a rogue with lower gs, my output and handling of the mechanics has never been an issue in h+.
That being said, I’m not where I need to be for an OS zerg strat, yet.
More than 50% of the groups I’m in boot me right after I get the summon (or in most cases, once they get summoned, as I try to get to the stone asap). Is it frustrating? Yeah, especially when I know I’m capable. But I understand done people want to breeze it for badges and don’t believe that I’ll be an adequate addition to the group. Not salty, just a bit cheesed that I’m not given a chance.
I’ve yet to wipe in a h+, so far, and clears always seem to be well under a half hour.
You’re right to be frustrated because the typical GS requirements are not required to clear. But I have also heard of people inviting randoms who were doing less 1k DPS, so some might want to avoid that at all costs.
Best you can do is make your own group or just try to be friendly when asking to join a group and explain you’re not a bot.
I’ve been told that there is this feature in the game which let’s you pre group with good players so that everyone knows that even if they have a low gearscore they know you ahead of time to just auto invite you without a check and no fear of being booted after invite.
They even given you a special social tab and your own private group chat built into the game. And an additional bank you can all share!
Damn, can’t remember the name of it. It’s a good feature though.
They can leave heroic+ in but the tool they made is terrible for the current state of heroics in general…
You should be able to filter out heroic plus from the tool… One of my alts is almost max level and i know its going to be a pain to gear up from regular heroics.
That being said, i think heroic plus will get easier when dbm catches up and folks put out some content on it. For instance the mirror image plus content is so much easier if you have one person just focus on the images.
Pretty sure it’s an exaggeration but if your group isn’t in 4k gear, it does take a long time. No amount of skill is going to make things die faster if you aren’t geared.
Of course, that’s what H+ was intended for, not the 4k+ groups cleaving through in 30 mins or less.
There’s no challenge if you’re geared… yet 90% of the groups doing it don’t need the loot drops. It’s for the damn badges which was a mistake to include.
And there lies the crux of the problem… H+ was intended for your situation specifically but the mouthbreathers want to do the daily in less than 30 mins so they require 4k+ gearscore to join.
I always whisper after I get booted asking if it was the GS, and saying it sucks, but I understand. It’s part of the culture, and no one wants a freeloader. I just find it frustrating as I don’t intend to be a freeloader.
Building my own groups has been fine, though thanks for the input.
Yeah, while I do not condone it, I do understand. I do my best to be an amicable player, and stay positive, but it tries my patience sometimes.
Heroic+ isnt even that hard. Learn the mechanics. Geez everyone just wants to be handheld all the time.
Ill be honest. I didnt know the whole Heroic+ was a thing. I just joined a new guild a week ago, and finally got up the nerve to ask to do the daily. Got into the dungeon, and they told me to click on the disk without explaining what it did. I got a quick 30 second overview of what it did after it was activated, and we went from there. 4 wipes on the 1st boss from a mechanic that we couldnt quite figure out. After that smooth sailing. In the end, I though it was pretty cool and only took about an hour and a half or so. And i was under 3k gs. I guess it just depends on the group.
Ok, ADHD ramble over.
I have love/hate relationship with heroic+. On one hand with my tank friend and me healing, we can knock them out of the park even with undergeared dps. But I would hate to pug one.
I also hate it that the dungeon tool doesn’t show any information about what type of heroic the group is about, and there is no way to filter out people who are undergeared, and I feel so bad removing fresh 80 people telling them they’re undergeared for H+.
but it wasn’t out till wrath ICC!
okay…neither was 3.3.5.
I make the joke if they are picking out things to be in 3.3.5 but were from earlier patch levels…lets put in 3.0 DK and rogue code lol.
I hear rogue had a fun start in 3.0.
my issue here…the arbitrary feature picks. and, well…no statment its coming at ICC.
ICC out, 3.3.5 patch level, 1 + 1 ='s RDF. as it was the first time.
here enters it killed wow. no…cata being urguably crap, kung fu panda drama then no flight WoD killed wow. legion plugged up some holes and then a tree burned. and then Mr. Nipples.
Low Gs makes it even worse. the fights on trash take too long
I imagine this is where a lot of the traffic is going, even if it’s impossible for the rest of us to see – basically, players shrugging their shoulders and trying for H+ because everybody’sdoingit, getting bounced and logging or silently doing something else.
If I’d told someone that Blizzard would re-release a version of Wrath where a group of “4.2k+ gs” would offer 150g in Trade to tank Violet Hold, they’d say I was crazy. And yet, last night, right there on my screen.
Unless the devs are intentionally antagonistic to either original design or player preference for it, and want to bury regular heroics under the lure of emblems, a separate LFG channel – for players who wanted to play as it was – will be critical.
Imagine making dungeons more difficult than raids in a classic era of the game. Top. Kek.
Just wait till ToC releases and they do heroic++ and double all the values on their lazy blanket buff.
What kind of groups are you getting where you’re in the dungeon for 2+ hours? I get mine done in like 10-40.
all i see is “give me free stuff don’t make me play the game i’m paying for the privilege of playing”