Heroic+ needs to go

For a person who works overtime, I can’t find the time during weekdays to have to put up with the torture of lower geared people wanting to wipe 10 times and stay in the dungeon for 2+ hours.

Flag this post all you want Blizz, I’m sure there are people who agree with me that they can’t find groups to get quick emblems anymore. We don’t need the Heroic+ gear.

Plus it would be helpful if you introduce a section in the LFG option to que up for regular heroics only, instead of having to message people and waste time by asking if they’re running regular heroics or heroic+.

Thank you.

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It’s not mandatory. You don’t have to do it.

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Then dont. End thread?

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Exactly and I don’t want to, but I can’t find a group for regular heroics anymore. Everyone wants to do + only and it’s time consuming to message each posting in LFG to ask them if they’re doing regular or +. Not everyone has the time during the weekdays to spend 2-3 hours wiping in a heroic +, some of us just want the emblems and for it to be over and done with.

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This is hilarious coming from such an anti-rdf person.

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they have zero self awareness

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Why do you need regular heroics, but not Heroic+ gear?

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I don’t think it needs to go, I just think it needs a tab to separate normal heroics from heroic plus. That would solve a lot of the wasted time issue. Then your only waste of time is sitting queued looking for normal heroics which no one wants to do anyway now.

Because he wants a quick and easy way to farm emblems it literally says that in his post, he doesn’t need the gear the dungeons drop. He’s struggling to find groups doing normal heroics that can be done in 15 mins so he can farm all his embalms for the day in as little as a few hours, instead of having to suffer through slow and painful heroic + dungeons with under geared players who just make a single dungeon take 2+ hours, instead of the 3-4 hour world tour he would have gotten otherwise.

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quest completes maybe. retail player with classic nostalgia has learned why rdf/lfd exists.

heroic is for quest completes. end list…

lfd makes it easy and thus it gets filled. In some other non lfd but DF level of wow earth dimension its heroic dungeon is dead too.

since they are needing the lfg anyway, they will take their m15 with raid dropped gear fill ins and go faceroll a m0. loot is better than heroic and its an atm run after a few weeks.

by atm I mean press a few buttons, get paid. Just like atm’s in real life.

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This is the issue.

Tuesday evening, H+ dungeons were a goofy mismatch of difficulty and rewards. A few hours later, bounty satchels started dropping as intended. Now there’s a mad scramble for 5 Conquest whether or not players are capable.

Aside from the deepest irony that exactly the same obsession with high difficulty for frequently consumed content spiked Cataclysm after Wrath’s success…this is what Wrath was and why many of us signed up.

These players are willing to forego an extra 3 Conquest to relax and knock out a dungeon or two. Problem is, per above, so many other players are being goosed into H+ the tools Blizzard gave us to help with group assembly are no longer sufficient. If dev intent is not to retcon Wrath and obsolete plain heroics, then mode distinction added to the tool would be appreciated.

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Okay soooo I’m gonna level with you friend… I recently ate …something probably not allowed on the forums, can you explain like I’m 5 please. I’m not sure I completely understand what you’re tryna say.

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Come back when you’re sober, Zappa

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Should add LFD for all content except H+. Use LFG tool for H+, group quests, raids.

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I feel the same as the OP. My main (this Hunter) doesn’t need gear, so I have no interest or requirement for Heroic+. But farming badges would be good for Heirlooms and what not. But since Heroics are dead, my options are doing a long Heroic+ or nothing.

I’d try to gear my Prot Paladin, but he needs Heroic gear in order to head into Heroic+ (Due to people Gearscore walling the groups, as was predicted) or do 10-man Naxx raids. But since Heroics are dead, I can’t gear at all now.

Heroic+ killed Heroics instead of reviving them. Great job Blizzard… Now hopefully you’ll know what 3-letter system we want implemented to fix your screw-up.

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I thought it was strange too. He’s against H+ for all the wrong reasons.

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No one cares about your obligations. We all have them. You’re not unique in that regard.

If you don’t want to do them, don’t do them ¯_(ツ)_/¯. It’s not a big deal

Either way, if I did another dungeon, I’d happily go into a TF one instead of a normal heroic. It’s just way too boring otherwise

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well, youd have no problem with that if theyd given us RDF, but theyd rather have countless dead dungeons and bored players, than let us have a tool that makes the game playable.

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I personally didn’t mind the challenge but did so with a well geared group on my main. I feel it going to make it even more difficult to build heroic dungeon groups when not enough guild members are willing to go.

Either the difficulty should be toned down somewhat or some kind of better incentive for geared players to run these. Our group ran 2 of these and only receive the bonus satchel in 1 run (this was yesterday). Was disappointing as none of us needed the 10 man loot in there.

You only want the daily heroic badges?

Good news time wise, if you do heroic+ you only need to do it once every 2.5 days for the same amount of badges from the daily heroic everyday

Ez

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over reaction. it shouldn’t haven’t been implemented in this patch for sure.