If normal drops 554 not upgradable and heroic dungeons require 571 ilvl, how do you bridge the gap?
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Normal dungeons are not the only way to get better gear. You can also get better gear through:
- Profession crafting
- BoE (Bind on Equip items)
- Delves (now available higher tiers upper to 3)
- Weekly quests
- Great Vault
Just explore the new things that are now available. This change probably aims to encourage players to try these other activities.
I’m not sure you understand the issue.
Profession crafting would require at least the first token which I’m not sure you can get from normal dungeons to upgrade the ilvl. If you can, I’ve only got 2-3 on a character I’ve been running a lot of dungeons on, which is seemingly adding weeks to upgrade from normal dungeons to heroic dungeons. I do not believe they intend that to take as long as it now will, and I’m trying to suggest there is a bug in level 80 normal dungeon loot ilevel or in the heroic ilvl requirement.
BOE - Do not exist in a meaningful way for 571 ilvl gear right now.
I do not believe delves award ilvl 571 gear up to lvl 3 which is a recommended gear level higher than you can get from normal dungeons.
Weekly Quests / Great Vault are a weekly by definition, and would award 0-3 pieces of upgradable gear. Are you suggesting it should take multiple weeks to get from 80 ilvl 554 from normals to ilvl 571 and able to run heroics through LFG?
I do appreciate the suggestions but it seems obvious to me there is an issue here, where I could gear up from normals into heroics yesterday I now cannot and seemingly will take weeks to do the same.
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So you’re assuming at this point with zero evidence to show for it. If you don’t know something then don’t say a word.
I don’t understand why this isn’t being talked about more. To anyone who wants to focus on dungeons exclusively (it’s my fav content) are being forced into stuff we don’t want to do.
Don’t get me wrong, I’ve been doing and will keep doing the others things mentioned and more but the speed from going from fresh 80 to heroic dungeons now seems to be much longer than it was yesterday, which makes no sense to me.
Indeed, I’m assuming that is the reason why I said “probably.” Sorry for that, it was just an opinion.
Anyways, this “increase” of ilvl happened in other new seasons, like the previous Season 4 in Dragonflight.
Usually, every new season are increased the ilvl reward in the different ways to get armor, as this Wowhead article mentions about The War Within case.
In that article, it lists normal dungeons 558-580, which would make sense. However, Normal dungeons at 80 are dropping 554.
This doesn’t even make sense. Yesterday we were able to get Heroic gear (ilvl 571) fine, and now you’re saying their intent was for us to try these other activities that are capped and have gear-slot RNG tied to it? This just gives a boost to players who farmed dungeons early.
By the way, the gap between Heroic and M0 was huge, requiring upgraded gear. To close the gap they bumped Heroic gear up but in turn increased Heroic dungeon requirements. It doesn’t make sense.
I am 556 now, I started at 503 on the 26th, cant do LFR or Heroic. Normal dungeons does not give the gear to get upgraded to go into Heroic. Its seems that devs are catering to the 1% of players that grind day in day out. Is this game only for the 1%, if it is its not very friendly towards the causal player. There is so much content in this game, limiting the player is very unnecessary. For Example, You give a person a project, they do everything you ask and a bit extra (The Project is complete) but wait you have to do 50 more hours.
Got it. In this season, normal dungeons should upgrade Explorer items as this Item Level Table From All Sources says from the article mentioned above
| Upgrade Track | Activities | Item Level |
|---|---|---|
| Explorer | World Quests Delve Tiers 1-2 Normal Dungeons |
558 - 580 |
| Adventurer | World Quests Weekly World Events Delve Tiers 3-4 Heroic Difficulty Dungeons |
571 - 593 |
| Veteran | Renown Rewards Weekly World Events Delve Tiers 5-6 Delve Tiers 1-3 Great Vault Heroic Difficulty Dungeons Great Vault Mythic Difficulty Dungeons LFR Difficulty Raid Bosses |
584 - 610 |
According to that table that allow to get armor with only dungeons, BUT actually still 554 ilvl doing at lvl 80 non upgradable rigth? Actually, it works like this according to another table The War Within Season 1 Dungeon Item Level Drops in the same article:
| Dungeon Difficulty | End of Dungeon | Initial Upgrade Level | Great Vault | Initial Upgrade Level |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Normal | 554 | N/A | N/A | N/A |
| Heroic | 580 | Adventurer 4/8 | 593 | Veteran 4/8 |
| Mythic | 593 | Veteran 4/8 | 603 | Champion 3/8 |
one thing is which is the most appropriate thing to improve armor with a single method (like doing only dungeons and nothing else) and another thing is what is intended or planned, which so far the article is ambiguous about.