Oh, no doubt. Like I said with Odyn earlier, it’s hard to say they’re wrong about the Titans and their proxies. At the end of the day, the Titans tried to force Azeroth’s evolution down a path they chose for her, in spite of evidence that she wasn’t having it (Thraegar).
But just like with Odyn, just because they might be correct, doesn’t mean their methods and actions are justified.
The reason the titans empowered the dragons is explained in the third round of questions and answers with CDev:
Aman’Thul, the wise leader of the titan Pantheon, had seen in a vision that the Old Gods would one day cause a catastrophe with the potential to wipe out all life on Azeroth. He and a few members of the Pantheon empowered the five Dragon Aspects with the ultimate goal of averting this single catastrophe, this Hour of Twilight, though they strove to defend Azeroth whenever a suitably apocalyptic threat emerged. Despite Aman’Thul’s vast powers, however, he was not omniscient: neither he, nor any of the other titans or Aspects knew that Neltharion the Earth-Warder would become a pawn of the Old Gods and the herald of the apocalypse. However, following the War of the Ancients and Neltharion’s betrayal, Nozdormu received another vision of the future that made it clear that their own brother would be the Hour of Twilight’s harbinger. The titans bestowed upon all five Aspects enough power to avert the apocalypse, and by turning one of the Aspects to their side, the Old Gods believed this would make their ultimate plan foolproof.
https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Ask_CDev
Therefore, if Aman’thul had predicted that Nelthrarion would become Deathwing, it may be that the titans would not have empowered the dragons.
You’re right. I was referring to just Deathwing and Malygos.
I wasn’t sure whether to count Nozdormu/Murozond because we’ve been trying to prevent him turning, since it’s destined to happen in the future while WoW has been on a “screw destiny” path with storytelling lately.
I considered the greens like you did, given how they were corrupted by the Emerald Nightmare. Wasn’t comfortable counting Ysera herself since she was corrupted by Xavius much more directly (literally having the Nightmare-infused Tear of Elune stabbed into her body) and didn’t get the chance to do harm. That and the Emerald Nightmare is the Void’s doing (either Yogg-Saron or N’Zoth made it).
I’m not against the Dragonflights or Aspects, never have been. I’m just saying Odyn had a valid point about not wanting them empowered even if he’s, to put it mildly, a jerk.
That was a lore info which was brought with Cataclysm and the Novel Twlight of the Aspects
To be honest, i always found that narrative totally bs, like the dragons had their great purpose to prevent theh our of twilight…which was caused by one of their own, its totally stupid.
I liked this part because it brought to light a flaw in Aman’thul’s predictions. This shows that, despite having great power and being able to predict the future, he is not omniscient.
And although the dragons solved a problem that started with themselves, I thought this story was very interconnected.
The dragonflights are a complex scenario though. What would life on Azeroth be without them? We’ll never know. It’s why people can differ on opinions on the matter.
Was it mistake? Maybe, it can certaintly be argued that way
Would Azeroth be an eventual hellscape when the Old Gods break free and the Aspects aren’t around to stop them? The Aspects were instrumental in stopping the Hour of Twilight.
And the Hour of Twilight that Nozdormu saw wasn’t even the worst timeline. He foresaw something so horrible that he would eventually become Moruzond to try and stop it
At this stage though, everyone’s already picked a side and I doubt anyones moving from their positions on the matter
So we really became aware of N’zoth and the extent of his manipulations in Cata because of Deathwing. So I’d just say that had there been no Aspects (and therefore no Deathwing), N’zoth would have stayed in the shadows all the way up until the end, when he reformats Azeroth into his new Black Empire in BfA. Deathwing, being such a blunt, brute force object drew more attention than any alternative plan N’zoth would have gone for, and therefore was easier to stop and brought increased scrutiny to N’zoth’s existence.
It’s not a flawless idea, but it’s better than nothing.
Yes, its why i find just silly how Kagehiro just came just bascially to say “heee you know what? ODYN WAS RIGHT ABOUT THE DRAGONS!”
Thats untiil!!! DF came around and said that “ho after all chromie used power of frienship and Nozdormu stopped being depressed!”
The funny part is, the position is on Odyn and not really the dragons
The funny part of it, is that its very little explored directly in game, its mostly in novels and chronnicles that you know about this, and i legit did Cata without even knowing that infos, i learned it like during MoP or WoD, and i found it so lame…
I dont get why they had to make up this prophecy, why not sumply say what was said ; That the dragons were simply powerful and also they helped defeat Galakrond so the keepers/titans saw potential to protect Azeroth. No need to creat such complex narrative of prophecy and stuff really.
The Dragon Soul that was used by Deathwing to annihilate dragon and night elf forces? The Dragon Soul that was going to be used as a battery to bring Sargeras into the world?
The Legion itself regards The Wild Gods and the Kaldorei as their obstacle to Azeroth’s conquest. I’m glad Deathwing happened to zap some Legion forces while he was indiscriminately disintegrating everything around him, but I’m pretty confident the bad outweighs the good.
You forgot the part when it was also used to disrupt said portal and allowed to not only close it, but vacume all of the demons back into the nether.
Again you seem to on purpose not provide cursial informaitons, because yes, the Dragon Soul is what allowed to close that portal.
It was a double edged tool which both heped evil but also can be used for good in the right hands, it always was the story of that objects, hence why it have 2 names.
The Dragon Soul being used is factual (as is the Sundering it led to, among a host of other problems). It being the one and only thing that could have won the WotA is not.
The Sundering happened due to Malfurion closing the portal the legion were pouring out of. The magical backlash is what sunk most of the Kalimdor landmass.
Deathwing I believe, had already fled with the Dragon Soul by that point. After being driven off by the other aspects