Helf Paladins, how both sides are right and wrong at the same time

Pro-Helf Paladins

  • Truth: Void Elves should be allowed to be Paladins. There are many against it but also many for classes for all races. That means… CLASSES for ALL races.
  • False: Void Elves shouldn’t get special treatment when other races also can use more options too. Rolling out new Class/Race options is a HUGE deal. It’s not going to happen for Void Elves unless it’s going to happen for every other race.

Anti-Helf Paladins

  • Truth: The Helf crowd is most definitely annoying as you can never please them. The moment they get Paladins they’ll ask for a race name change from Velf… to Helf.
  • False: We can’t make up arbitrary rules for magic. It’s not a real science and you can’t just make up that Void and Light can’t co-exist. Priests canonically use both the Light and Void already. Void Elves can most definitely be Paladins.
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False. Void Elves make no sense as paladins.

I didn’t read the rest because you flubbed it in the first line.

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Well since you didn’t read and admit your ignorance…

Here. :wink:

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Void and Light don’t co-exist. Priests are canonically one or the other, depending on race. Almost all Forsaken priests are shadow, and it’s safe to assume that all void elf priests are shadow as well, just as one can assume that all Lightforged are holy.

Paladins are infused with the light. Void elves are infused with shadow. They make no sense.

Find me a single existing void elf paladin NPC and I’ll consider changing my mind.

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This actually is true though. They get explosive if you put them near each other. Alleria just walked up to the Sunwell and her presence almost destroyed it. She can’t even touch Turalyon anymore. It’s also why the Light is harmful to undead, who are created with shadow magic.

Light vs Void is a huge cosmic battle, both types of magic can’t physically stand the other.

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That’s not truth. That’s an opinion. An opinion that makes no sense. Void cannot co-exist with the light. There is no justification for void elf paladins. If an additional alliance race MUST have a paladin option it isn’t void elf. Give paladins to night elves if an alliance race needs to have paladin to balance things out between factions.

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Give Night Elves paladins. We had two of them in Legion. It’s a long time coming.

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I don’t support this unless they include a way to reskin their abilities to demonstrate their power coming from Elune. The NE paladin in Legion was a convert and a traitor to her people. The last thing our poor, beaten race needs is for half of it to abandon its culture in favor of “human potential” and its Light.

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She’s a traitor? She was a priest that joined the Silver Hand.

We need glyphs that change the color of spells. Hopefully in shadowlands.

She wasn’t though. She didn’t even follow the light, which is why in my opinion it was odd to have such a large part of the paladin quest line focus on her. She worshiped and followed the light of elune not the light as is evident by her dialogue lines she continuously spouted along the lines of “for the light of elune” or something similar.

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The light basically works because you think it works.

The blood elves thought they stole the light from muru and it worked because they believed it did.

She got her light from Elune because she believed she did.

Where there is a will the light will find a way.

Guys, please stop arguing in the church.

There are people trying to pray.

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casts smite

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No thank you.

Keep the restrictions, they give the races a direct flavor.

Stop generalizing people.

You were able to tell fiction from real life, I’ll give you a gold star.

And no, asking for rules of the fantasy world to bend to you is not a good argument.

It’s not made up because we knew this for awhile.

It was thrown in your face so many times in Legion.

Disc priest does.

And i’ll be fair here, they just balance the light and shadow…

  1. Void elves don’t have any religions or devotions to them.
  2. Paladins are pure light and only light, the polar opposite of the void.
  3. Void elves only get Priest because they are entitled to shadow spec.
  4. No, i don’t care for whatever straw man examples you have of another race you are biased against getting Paladin.

Just save it thanks.

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hahaha this is so funny

blizz gave you all high elf customizations and instead of being satisfied for a minute it’s straight to the next thing to complain about

there’s at least 3 of these stupid high elf paladin threads

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She does, she says that her training in the Priesthood was just the first steps, and to truly serve she has to be reborn in The Light, etc. etc. Basically a lot of words to say “who needs my religion, yours has humans!”

I’m exaggerating, somewhat. My point is that I don’t want her to be a base for night elves getting paladins. If they get them, they should be their own unique thing like the Sunwalkers, not just “glowy gold Holy Light wielder #5” like Delas effectively is. I want to see warriors of Elune, and there’s currently no way to do that.

So if Void Elf shadow priests work the same as regular priests and can heal and deal damage with Shadow just like Light Priests can heal and deal damage with Light, why is there no precedent for Void Paladins?

If, as you say, the differences are interchangeable depending on race.

They can’t. All void elf priests (as far as lore is concerned) are shadow specced, meaning that they can’t heal (except that void heal that does as much damage as it heals) or use the Light.

There is no comparable spec for paladins that could be explained away. All paladin specs use the Light exclusively.

The shadow is my light - Voidicus Edgyboi First of the Vieled Shadow Light Blades.

Thats my lore justification btw.

Truth: This thread is unnecessary.

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