Hear me out Classic Devs… if you are listening… BC SoD and allow the option to faction change for a limited time upon announcement.
Currently Sod is just raid logging. So the introduction of BC would not only make the servers feel really alive again, but also make the Classic Raids scale down into dungeon groups and provide giga XP till 60 and (this is selfish) but reward tokens that you can use at 70 to turn in for a new slow and fast flyer.
TBC SoD or a fresh Classic with the promise to go to TBC after 8-12 months. I’d be happy with either.
The issue with tbc “sod” is more then half the runes are just tbc/wotlk abilities/talents. In order for them to do tbc sod it would be an entire remake of sod
With TBC it would require far less work to make the classes balanced and playable though, as they’d all start off in fairly decent shape. TBC fixed sooooo many issues that if they don’t go into TBC, they should at least use the prepatch for it.
Fixes DRs, fixes, durations of CCs. Adds a 2 min cd trinket. Adds a solid honor system. Adds arena. Adds the ability to see enemy buffs / debuffs. There’s just a lot of net positives from TBC.
That could also be a solid way to lean into classic +, is to be like, SoD is transitioning to TBC, and becoming classic +… though you’re right, they couldn’t keep the same runes in that situation.
No thanks we wont be doing that that’s for sure lol. TBC was some of the lowest numbers in wow history (besides era) and when most of the player base took a vacation for a while. We will be moving to more vanilla related pve and working on it like that. No we are not going back to tbc. We don’t want that!! Hope you have a great day Shankaho 
Me when i make stuff up on the internet
People aren’t keen on pumping time into alts either b/c Bliz has absolutely failed us on the communication front. We have no idea what their plan is for long-term development, so many people are thinking 'wtf is the point? It’s over," and that will continue until they ANNOUNCE SOMETHING. We need long-term plans and goals. This lack of communication isn’t something I should even be complaining about. Where are the community managers?
There were the most helpful, communicative community manager who actually responded to posts, and even went into cesspool of cesspools, the arena forums itself, to check things out… What’d blizzard do? Laid him off.
Rip Ythisens.
TBC was the best expansion in history of wow. The most mature version of the game which was still abiding to the rules of the original design but it was more refined and aged.
I would love to get some BC. I don’t want all of these crappy runes to ruin BC though. Maybe some runes can survive. I’d love to play SL/SL lock with the the drain life rune
Classic, SOD, and whatever the next iteration of classic is needs something else to do in the endgame other than just raiding which leads to raid-logging which seems to take over the game after The Molten Core phase is done. Really, if you’re not raiding the game just becomes a content drought.
From BC onwards you at least had Arenas. I’m not necessarily suggesting classic should add arenas(don’t think they’d work with classic class design anyways) but I do think there should be some form of competitive PvP with good rewards whether that is some sort of outdoor PvP event like Blood Moon, Rated BGs, or something else.
…sigh.
Why do I have to constantly repeat myself.
SoD cannot go to anything beyond Vanilla because it uses the Era Client. If they take SoD to TBC/beyond. They would either need to bring Era/HC with it or make a separate client, which if they were going to that, they would have done prior to SoD launching.
That’s because TBC wasn’t suppose to be an expansion. It was suppose to be a major content patch. But Activision told Blizzard to make it an expansion so they could milk the roughly 8+ million for a ‘box sale’.
This is why HFP has stuff like Mountain Silverage and Golden Sasame; it was suppose to be a lvl 60 zone like Silithus and EPL.
In fact, if you look some of the JC recipes are in Blackrock Spire (Upper I think); there’s absolutely no reason a lvl 58 would go to BRS and get roughly half the XP per mob as they would from TBC mobs.
The patch was probably going to be Patch 1.13, and titled something like Secrets of Karazhan. This would lead to Patch 1.14, which would have probably been titled Outlands; it’s unclear how far out they planned the ‘content patches’, but it’s save to say HFP was the last ‘content patch’ they had planned before the shift to make it all an expansion.
WoW’s first, actual expansion, is Wrath.
TBC was easily one of the bext XPAC’s ever (difficulty wise) content was actually challenging
Pretty sure tbc was before the Activision merger. Pretty sure that wasn’t until cata/mop
I was lookin at that. Looks like Vivendi owned them at the launch of tbc, though vivendi and activision merged around 2008 or something, so mid way through tbc.
Either way a lot of TBC content was all pretty much content they didn’t have time to finish for original vanilla, so while he isn’t entirely wrong, he isn’t entirely right either.
Respectfully, I disagree. I think the raiding community commands more attention than the population of actual raiders should allow. Most players are casual. The rank and file population is filled with people who like to have multiple characters, maybe 1 or 2 at max, and enjoy working through crafts, gathering resources, questing, working on rep, and doing other things ‘raiders’ would likely never consider. That’s why I don’t see a content drought at all. I see pacing that’s too fast for the actual majority of players to appease a vocal minority.
This isn’t true at all. Once your character is raid ID saved there is nothing left to do on that character at all for the week. The other things you mentioned there are just silly. Like, who doesn’t have 300 professions at this point and ‘gathering resources’ and ‘working on rep’ just feels more like a job than an actual game, those aren’t things I’d call fun. This warrior is still neutral with the Emerald Wardens because I found Incursions to be the dumbest most tedious thing in the world so believe me when I say I don’t do things or play games I don’t enjoy.
Raid-logging has long been a thing and its bad for the game. There needs to be an alternative to raiding endgame and I think some sort of PVP feature would be the best thing. Supposedly they’re bringing Blood Moon back next phase, thank god at least that’s something.
This is like the 3rd time ive seen you post the same wrong information, doesnt it get tiring?
No. Vanilla only seasons.
“Around 2006, Kotick reached out to Jean-Bernard Lévy, the CEO of the French media conglomerate Vivendi. Vivendi at that time had the games division Vivendi Games, a holding company principally for Sierra Entertainment and Blizzard Entertainment. Kotick wanted to get access to Blizzard’s World of Warcraft, a successful MMO, and suggested a means to acquire this to Lévy.”
“Kotick proposed the merger to Activision’s board, which agreed to it in December 2007.”
“On July 8, 2008, Activision announced that stockholders had agreed to merge, and the deal closed the next day for an estimated transaction amount of US$18.9 billion.”
– Wikipedia on Activision-Blizzard
TBC came out January 2007.
As with all mergers, the unofficial merger date is actually much earlier than when it’s officially (on paper) done.
Which information is wrong.
I play 4 toons, always something to do my friend