Having to switch between static and dynamic flight is a pain in the back side!

When you are in Dynamic flight mode every mount that is set up to be able to fly Dynamic flys the same as Dragons do in DF. When you are in static mode it slows down to regular flight speed and control.

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Take all my likes.

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A lot of us didn’t want flying added at all again before WoD even came out so. Be grateful it’s still in game at all. I’d have axed flying completely. <3

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It’s not. I think the issue is the time needed to switch. It’s around 6.5 seconds to go from dynamic to standard; not including travel time to the ground. The Dynamic switch is 5 seconds+1.5 seconds to summon a standard mount without dynamic flight. 6.5 seconds can impact a player flow when doing world quest on 10+ alts. I’m an altaholic so I agree. That 6.5 seconds is a major impediment when running on a clock to finish 20+ WQ.

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To someone who doesn’t need to do it all of the time it is not a big issue! To someone who has difficulty moving their hands normally thing takes longer and is more difficult already adding anything that adds to the time it takes gets amplified! So I get tired of holding people I am playing with back because they have to waste on me all of the time and this will only add to that as I NEED TO BE ABLE TO DO STATIC MOST OF THE TIME AS I CANT CONTROL THE DYNAMIC FLIGHT WITH ANY KIND OF PRECISION DUE TO BEING DISABLED!!! I can’t flap on time, I can’t land that fast where I want to, I don’t run out of vigor I just can’t time the button presses well enough to maintain flight Dynamically! So Dynamic Flight is endlessly frustrating for me, and adding a casting delay only adds to that frustration! I don’t expect people who live in their little bubbles to be able to expand their thinking to grasp the frustration this is causing people in my situation as it is apparent that no amount of explaining is getting that through as people keep saying “OMG such a small issue” Or “I don’t see the problem” or “5 seconds is suuuuuuuch a hassle…. Really”! Yes to me in my situation it is a hassle!

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Well, if you’d been in charge, WoD and the game would have become far less busy. For many players, removing flight was a breaking point, and I was one of them. I doubt you’d still be playing it today as anything but a free game on Steam.

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Because of flying? Really? Only good thing to come from it is the items I can use to demount you as you try to fly away. Other than that, I was fine with only using ground mounts, allowing for more engaging world design for better exploration and world PvP.

You aren’t aware of the uproar when Ion announced that flying was being permanently removed during WoD? Not just here but across every discussion site, there were thousands (probably tens of thousands) of posts on multiple sites. Other than their weird idea to use player’s actual names here on the forums for posting, it was the most explosive reaction to a Blizzard announcement.

His decision was quickly changed and it was at that point that they introduced Pathfinder.

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Yeah, it pretty much wiped out the core of my guild, a lot of us had our last straw moment and quit, i only came back after they buckled and did the Pathfinder thing.

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Yes, I think it was a reaction that actually pinged on their radar. People complaining is one thing, but dropping subs would definately catch their attention. It was the only time in my playing years when I turned off my sub payment and, like you, it only stayed that way till they reversed the idiot idea.

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Exact same thing with me, non stop subbed from vanilla all the way through (i’d even leave it running if i went away on holidays or whatever), instantly cancelled when Ion finally came clean about his plans for flight.

I think the thing that made me so angry was how he lied to us, telling us we’d get it back in the first patch, just be patient blah blah blah. He dragged that nonsense on for as long as he could, then finally came clean in that random interview over a long weekend i think, hoping that it would blow over.

If they truly wanted to make a no-flying game going forward, they should have marketed WoD as a no flying expansion so we could have voted with our wallet, but they knew it would hurt sales too much, so they tricked us into trying the expansion :rage:

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Yes, Im much the same, I would often keep the sub going with my gold to buy tokens if things got a bit too tired. Cant do that much now, the damned things are too pircey but at least I did pay for my TWW with my gold, even if just a basic edition. Not sure how much longer I will be able to play, it may be my last but time will tell.

Ion has a habit of, shall we say, creating a bit of fiction. You only need to look back on the initial announcements for WoD where they got up on stage and told us a lot of stuff and showed us maps and how many of those changed or disappeared shortly afterwards. Make it look pretty at blizzcon so people will buy it and then shorten it, presumably to save money. The players are very patient, I think , to put up with the stuff that happens.

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Not gonna lie, If I weren’t a Dracthyr, I’d be pretty neutral on Dynamic Flight. i could take it or leave it.

Being a Dracthyr makes me enjoy it a lot more though. Soaring without a mount is incredibly enjoyable compared to flying on a Dragonriding Mount. to me, anyway.

I wonder how this toggle will affect Soar. because if it doesn’t, then on this character I’ll just leave the toggle set to Static Flight and call it a day.

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How is a 5 second cast such a tragedy? It is absolutely a non issue for anyone for anywhere at any time except the most impatient people or just want to be a pita.

You are not switching back and forth 10-20 times. You are going to be in tbc flying 95% of the time except when you want to fly a long distance.

And I too keep 3 (well 4 including the grand yak) mounts on my bar at all times. Dragon, tbc, ground mounts. In TWW ill just have 2 and the switch. Absolutely nothing will change.

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:point_up: :point_up: :point_up:
Now THERE is a person who will turn on DRing and STAY in DRing and so has NO CLUE what theyre talking about as far as OTHER players who want to swap back and forth lmao

There is NO REASON for you all to be in here TrOLLING. This has NO bearing on your game and no one here who is discussing this topic HONESTLY should be giving any of you the attention youre craving.

perma blocked.

Just stop feeding him. They are ALL here for attention. Stop giving it to them. Put them on ignore and you wont see their sealioning posts at all.

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if he’d have been directing the game it’d have died out years ago. lol.
We ALL saw the reaction to dragonriding, how the base as a whole has taken to it.
We ALL know that Ion tried to rid the game of flight and how badly that ended.
So yeah…had that poster been in charge we’d only be seeing World of warcraft now in the rear view mirror and in our memories. The game would be dead now.

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What Ion thought…

THERE’S STILL NO FLYING IN TANAAN JUNGLE … AND THERE PROBABLY WON’T BE IN ANY NEW ZONES OR EXPANSIONS
https://www.polygon.com/2015/5/22/8645293/world-of-warcraft-no-flying-tanaan-jungle-warlords-of-draenor-mmo-pc-blizzard

What Ion found out…

However, Hazzikostas goes on to acknowledge that many players still want flying mounts.
https://www.polygon.com/2015/6/10/8761289/world-of-warcraft-warlords-of-draenor-flying-update-mmo-pc-mac-blizzard

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You must have everyone perma blocked at this point.

I am not trolling. I am not arguing 1 type of flying over another. Im arguing someone complaining over the time to switch flying types.

But continue being the overtly dramatic person by complaining over 5 seconds of time.

Youre just ridiculous.

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I dont mind experimentation, but Ions problem is when something is tried and DOESNT work the man doubles down and holds his breath, arms crossed and cheeked puffed out, til the dollars lost forces him to relent.
That ISNT how youre supposed to run a company, do business…make a game for ENJOYMENT of the players, etc.

So they make dragon riding and gleefully say if its a hit they’ll take it forward AND add it to old content…BOOM…instant hit. and they keep those promises. Cool :+1:

But then he’ll still continue with the obstinate behavior where its something HE had no hand in creating…ie OLD flight. Still on the warpath against it and evidently actually thinks WE cant figure it out, lol.

If I didnt love the old game up thru Mists Id have quit playing WoW by now. DF isnt enough to keep me playing given the list of stinkers between WoD and SL.
The horrible decisions they make that DONT work and they refuse to accept that fact and reverse what they did, is just annoying enough that Im perpetually considering walking away from the game just over the principle of it.

The Loot-a-Rang, for example.
WAS usable at Cata Eng 1.
Ion and crew changed it, not to 40 when you can make it like literally everything else in Eng, lol…no…he makes it 70…which makes it about twice as expensive to level to use than at Eng 40…and VASTLY more expensive than Cata Eng 1 where it was.

Im an alt player…and that gold cost has eaten thru a few million of gold pointlessly since he made the change.
And i say pointlessly because clearly they thought it would help fight the fight against bots or something…and even MORE clear is the fact that it didnt do SQUAT to stop bots…or multboxers…from doing what they do.

The ONLY persons it really affected was players who DONT cheat and DONT box but do run a lot of alts and want to use the Rang on each one.

if I didnt love old content so much, id have quit over Ions direction of much of this game a long while back.

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Ya, it’s pretty dumb they aren’t just letting go of the pathfinder crap. It was never ever liked by anyone and was just a meaningless gate that I’m assuming was to force players to slow down and enjoy the scenery…I think dragonflight proved people can enjoy it at a fast speed just fine so why continue punishing those that want to use classic flying? I will never use classic flying again (unless forced to for whatever reason), but it’s pretty dumb classic flying isn’t just immediately alongside dynamic flight and it should be a .1 second extra action button to swap between them freely.

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