Having to PvE in order to PvP is why Wrath arena is dying

The ladder is constantly losing players and isn’t growing because PvE gear weighs too much in PvP power wise in Wrath.

I compared a full Savage Warrior that I’m on rn with a mix of Hateful/Deadly off pieces at around ~750 Resil with a full Hateful Warrior on Warmane with a mix of ArP off pieces and wep from raids and it was night and day how swapping out a couple pieces can spike your damage so high.

For me to be able to get these ArP pieces, every raid I have to compete with Rets and DKs and other Warriors constantly meaning week after week you just have to be stuck relying on RNG just to progress in PvP while other people can get better RNG and roll you in PvP with far better optimized items.

This doesn’t only apply to Warrior, I’ve seen this same thing with Warlocks, Mages and Rogues especially. There is a massive difference between getting PvE pieces even this early on vs. only having PvP gear.

What will kill Wrath’s arena scene is the reliance on every spec needing to raid in order to optimize in PvP, this will either lead to the TBC problem of people RMT’ing gold and buying out GDKPs or people straight up getting burned out and not even wanting to compete anymore due to how bad RNG can make you significantly weaker than those who lucked out and got their pieces early.

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Arpen is trash for ret/dk outside of the maly neck and the boots for frost/ret. Both are just due to the 226 ilvl and the gem in the neck.

A lot of people just don’t want to pvp man. Moving where you get the best gear isn’t going to affect participation. I would just do the raids. Takes 3 hours a week to knock out all 4.

Wrath has an arena scene?

Nah the streamers are using WM instead of Classic to show gameplay

Lol actually?

Kekw lul tbh

I think arena will pick up in the coming month(s). Currently casual players like myself are doing the raids and just10 wins a week. Once I get the gear I need the 6 hours a week I spend raiding can be spent doing arenas. Some items aren’t in 25 man which kind of force us to do 10 man malygos and OS.

Just wait for heroic + for your pve gear.

This has been known for 15 years… Next

boohoo. this isn’t a balanced pvp lobby game. it’s an MMORPG. the adventurer with lots of cool stuff is probably gonna beat you. deal with it. :expressionless: