Hate blood elves want high elves?

Yeah but Warcraft is its own thing and we shouldn’t behold it to generic fantasy tropes either. Not a particularly strong argument.

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It’s a bad argument because it’s incomplete. And as you put it, you are using it from a metatextual level as well, when why should we do that when we are talking about the specific nuance of WoW elves?

if you want to call to the biological group, just refer them to thalassian elves, there’s no need to use a term that you are choosing to interpret differently except for wanting to minimize the factual differences between High and Blood Elves. We can disagree whether these differences are meaningful enough, but it’s very different to use vocabulary with the intention of erasing them. That feels purposeful.

Why? Alleria was a Ranger Captain, not the Ranger General; she went to the aid of the Alliance with the purpose of revenge taking a cadre of rangers with her. I don’t see anywhere the implication that most of the elven military went with her anywhere.

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Yeah, but that was the expac of the game, the broader QT military was in play during the main game, so I still think most of them most likely stayed with Silvermoon.

Because it’s an easy way to drive home the point that they are one and the same. One people with a political difference.

agreed. the line from the elven units in the alliance in wc2 runs straight from them to the high elf rangers under sylvanas to the blood elf forces under halduron in the modern horde today not the alliance :smile:

thalassian is a language. would you call columbians spanish people because its their language? i mean you could, they are a spanish speaking people but they are columbians and blood elves are high elves. high elves is the collective term for the race. there is no lore entry for thalassian elf/s. this is a basic concept

The opposite is true.

…and they are also still high elves. There shouldn’t be a category of just this one thing and another single category of everything else.

we should call ourselves english because we speak english :woman_shrugging:

Or… we can be Americans and everyone else is just Humans.

i prefer the name of the language

Why in gore’s fiddle to we continue this semantic argument???

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anu belore dela’na

All Blood elves are high elves
All High elves are thalassian elves
All Blood elves are thalassian elves
Not all high elves are blood elves
All void elves are thalassian elves

Thalassian is the language and means, “of Quel’Thalas” .
People from Quel’thalas are called thalassians.
Not all Thalassians live in Quel’thalas anymore.

This is normal stuff that was already talked about multiple times.

The English who derived the English language follow the same design. Americans of the U.S. Took the language with them when they… Settled there.

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You do realize High Elves are just Blood Elves that changed their names to honor their fallen kin?

Now that they cleansed their fel addictions that were required to avoid starvation if they were to feed on clean arcane you literally couldn’t tell them apart unless they told you…

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Some posters pretend it’s offensive to them that we call Blood Elves high elves. He says he feels it trivializes his views. A poster who also likes to call us selfish because we want different things from them.

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Not even. They never actually consumed fel, and those that did became fel elves, which we raided waaaay back when.

I kinda get in on it because some of the semantics here feel like they’re being used to shortcut past an argument by setting up hoops that make it more awkward and complicated to talk about than it would be by using the shorter terms.

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We really should only have to bother with blood/high/void elf. Thalassian elf should be assumed… They’re not Night elves. Lol

If we had a better name for the overall “race” then that would be great, but we don’t. So we are left with high elf meaning two different things. Would be less muck to wade through. But there isn’t, and I find it amusing when we always find both sides tussling over it.

We all know its two factions of the same race who go by two names everything else is pretty much just clouding the waters or twisting it to fit a narrative.

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and we all know unless you ignore all the cultural and thematic elements that happened to the high elves, blood elves are the only way to experience a true high elven fantasy in wow :woman_shrugging:

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Think were just going to have to see what Alleria’s Return with the Ren’dorei has on High Elves who choose not to go home and stayed with Alliance, Seems that the road they will be going having the High Elves Show up like they are in Stormwind and the rift.

Also with Veressa’s past history with the Horde and Sin’dorei interesting what she is going to do with her sister,

We have some interesting things to watch for.

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