Has Sylvanas betrayed the Horde yet?

My point was really to address that players -do- participate in world events, I didn’t have any qualms over someone apparently claiming that the skeletons walking around are a Death Knights. Merely making it evident that we have a significant presence that is at least acknowledged.

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First off, Thaddius is not an abomination. Thaddius is like the king of all abominations. We don’t know that abominations require multiple souls at all. And furthermore?

KEL’THUZAD HAD AN ARMY OF DEATH KNIGHTS WHO HAD AN ARMY OF RUNEBLADES.

You’re wrong.

Nathanos.

Anyone can’t get souls from the other side.

Once again, you’re wrong.

Nathanos.

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So, then both sides are ready to indirectly destroy the planet. You just happen to agree with the Alliance’s reasoning more.

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Also, like dude- I wish Sylvanas would just go full Arthas at this point, I logged onto this game to play World of Peacecraft and I really want to dismember my enemies and blow my slidewhistle when they die, just before they release so I may show how evil I am over a computer screen nyahahaha.

I only agree with them more because I don’t believe that they’ll continue killing the planet after Sylvanas is defeated.

Sylvanas has stated that “All will serve her. All will serve death.” so it’s obscenely clear what her endgame is after lying to Magni then commanding the mining to continue.

Treng can I offer you a piece of cake to show you no hard feeling and I forgive you?

:cake:

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Nathanos didn’t get a full new body, it was restored using his cousins. If he had gotten a new body his would have been the remnants of oily residue instead of his cousins.

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Nathanos is kind of handsome though… I’m not going to lie.

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Only kind of? He’s pretty dreamy for a corpse.

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His voice too, and that extremely condescending attitude is where I fell in love.

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Nope.

Arguable.
I personally see don’t issue in it, but if you do that’s your thing.

continues to argue with
“People with different view points than me have different view points than me, that makes them bad”.

That’s unfortunate, maybe you’d like to try making more convincing arguments then.

I’ll admit that’s a weird one.
I’d rather Thrall continue his business with the Earthen Ring or his family or whatever. If he does come back as Warcheif, then I hope it’s a better Thrall than he currently is.

That video is amazing.

Well, actually what about those Draenei Vigilant things, like Quoram?

Hes not in a different body. His body was enhanced using the body of his cousin the remains of which turned to ashes in the process leaving his Paladin armor behind.

Eailer you said Sylvanas needed valks to cross over to the other side and get the souls but now anyone can do it without crossing over which is it?

I went and re-read it. You’re right.

But Lurid was destroyed. And Thassarian remade him regardless.

Re-read the quote.

Edit: I went and read up on Gul’dan and the only reason “”“he was the only one who could put souls in bodies”"" was because he was the only one, at the time, who practiced it in the first place.

Bad form, Bronnix.

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You deleted it but I still have it in my post and you said “She needs Valkyr because Valkyr can move to the afterlife and bring souls back to reanimate them.”

But we have many examples of people even living mortals doing it. Without crossing over to the afterlife. Anyone with the magic and knowledge can do it you dont need to cross over to get souls and thats not why Sylvanas needs valks.

Thats not the same. The soul is possessing a machine not an undead body.

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YOU HAVE IT QUOTED RIGHT NOW.

https://i.imgur.com/hPHhC2x.png

Get outta here with that.

Such as?

Did they have people who had recently died?

How many of these examples are post the 2012 blue Word of God comment about undead requiring souls?

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Not that quote. This one.

The original is gone I had to quote myself quoting you cause it was deleted.

Again Im not saying they dont need souls where are you getting that? Im saying that you dont have to cross over to bring a soul over for rasing the dead. The Cult of the Damned do it all the time. So do others like the Ebon Blade and free Banshees.

Even after Wrath the Cult of the Damned raises Rattlegore right in front of us with no travel to the afterlife. They pull the souls from the afterlife from this end they dont go in after them.

I’m gonna say…no, she’s not a traitor. And not because she’s in charge, so whatever she says is automatically okay.

So far, unlike, say, Garrosh, all of her villainous deeds are still directed at the Alliance. The only Horde members she’s taken action against are the ones that are openly defying her, and even then, she’s only targeting individuals, and not, say, punishing their entire race because their race leader goes awol.

Is she betraying Thrall’s ideals? Most certainly. But she’s still loyal to the organization of The Horde.

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Treng for High King of the Alliance #2019

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Laughs in wanting to butcher the population of Stormwind and forcibly raise them into Forsaken for her own personal gains.

Would I call her a traitor? No.

But is she Evil? Yes.

She’s one devastating pitched battle away from being able to raise entire armies of Horde and Alliance as “willing and loyal” Forsaken Subjects to her reign.

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She’s betrayed her quads, thats for sure.

Her girlfriend Nathanos shouldve known better too. He sacrificed his cousin to be pretty, when he couldve had the premiere squatting power on the planet.

#quadsaretheultimatesoulgem