Harronir Certainly Aren't Nelves

Seemed like the worry was they’d be Kaldorei by any other name.

But they’re tusked and vaguely accented with dreadlocks who’s long ears are quite literally batlike because they turn into the things more often than Dracula.

I’m just saying like the obvious twist are these guys are going to be unaffected Dark Trolls, right? Like what else would they be?

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It’s kind of odd that my troll is taller than them. Which makes me think they are something else than troll. Next to the fingers and toes, but not my main focus.

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kaldorei packaged as kaldorei with (optional) tusks and (optional) dreads are still kaldorei.
inb4 kaldorei show up to be bffs with these underground kaldorei.

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I’m not sure we’ll ever learn for certain.

Honestly, I think the most likely answer is that they’re not the direct descendent or antecedent of any existing race. They’re a new branch on the tree that’s a cousin to Trolls but not quite a Troll.

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I’m not sure I grasp the distinction. Kal’dorei are derived trolls. The Harronir are either also derived trolls, or they are the progenitor race of all trolls (and elves).

Either way they are Kal’dorei adjacent. If Harronir are a troll race exposed to The World Soul, they are a cousin to the Night Elves. If they are the progenitor troll race they are also the progenitor of all elves (who are trolls).

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Assuming bat form was not in the Dark Troll kit, last I checked.

So, two theories come to mind.

The first is that these are the “missing link” between Dark Trolls and Night Elves. Presumably some of the Harronir left the Well of Eternity to come to this destroyed world tree before the well finished evolving them into Night Elves.

The second is that they’re more of a parallel evolution “sister” race to Night Elves. They had the same starting point of Dark Troll, but their source of world soul juice was the rootlands rather than the Well of Eternity and they evolved in a way more suited to living underground.

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Maybe they are nelf-quillboar hybrids from empire time, some nelfs might have had strange fantasies.

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Nah. The quills are explained in Classic Season of Discovery (yes, really). Dark Trolls worshipped Agamaggan as their main loa. This presumably influenced a bit of Harronir evolution. Honestly, the quills are what make me lean more towards the parallel evolution theory.

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My bet is they are neither, just a race that happaned to evolve in the depths

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Or a side variation of dark trolls, this too could work.

If they’re native to the underground regions of Azeroth originally then I’d say they’re formerly drogbar, altered by either Azeroth’s energies or the tree they’re protecting.

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reminder that these kaldorei with (optional) tusks and (optional) dreads have an emerald dream tree just like normal kaldorei do.

in the Underdark.

I’d say that they’re certainly a dark troll descendant. A sister group to the night elves as you point out. The dark trolls liked living in tunnels only coming out when it was dark, and strived to have a connection to nature, this then changed when they became permanent inhabitants of the surface.
They have the right amount of digits as night elves, but retain several troll features even if lessened like: The accent, the heel toe, tusks even if smaller than regular trolls for the males.

“Everything I don’t like is a Kaldorei”

You need some serious help dude.

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ah, yes. “”“this is just me.”“”

  • https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/1emk60w/the_harronir_seems_to_be_the_final_nail_in_the/
  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0cPdUuI0nE
  • https://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/1157207.png

:roll_eyes:

When did I say it was just you?

I is first person singular.

You never heard of that type of phrase when it comes to things like “woke” etc?

It is a meme my guy. Not everything is solely about you.

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