Half the Playerbase is gone?

Thats a long roundabout way of saying the game is just not fun.

The numbers come from a report just out from Superdata:

https://www.superdataresearch.com/blog/worldwide-digital-games-market

How accurate it is I have no idea but I’ve seen their data discussed and used frequently in the past and they do seem to base it on information available from business sources rather than guess.

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Hey just checking in to let ya know if people want to change their minds they can.

The only time I see Oribos busy is on Vault day, other than that it’s empty and baren. The first 2months of expansion it was alive most of the week.

They are just taking way too long between patches.

Basically worse iterations or weaker derivatives.

:surfing_woman: :surfing_man:

I agree with the rest of your post, but I felt like this segment was worth addressing.

I have played this game with no break longer than a week [camps and such, when I was a kid, you know how it is] since the beginning of Wrath.

I have played this game a combined total of 2-3 hours a week the past month. Not for a lack of time, as I’ve simply put the 20-30 hours a week I used to pour into this into other games. I can’t put my finger on it, but something is just intrinsically wrong right now. Went from raiding Mythic [late in the tier, yes, but still got CE in Nya] to… piddling through Heroic and calling it quits on the raid tier.

Something is just definably different about Shadowlands. Maybe it’s the absolute cluster of systems, maybe it’s the asynchronous progression in certain systems between characters, I’m not sure. I just know I’ve spent less time on this game in the past month or two than I ever have before in a similar timeframe. :frowning:

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Bellular says a lot of things which, at best, are shady and, at worst, are flat out lies.

Example: “my game development studio…”

Sure they can, and some do. Sometimes it takes a patch, sometimes an entire expansion, sometimes even multiple expansions. And some never come back at all. And some decide to quit and decide against it before their sub runs out and they cool down. Life is full of variety…

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who is that and why do people think they have secret knowledge about subscriber count

Please. This is the same bellular that once griped about BFA and titanforging . He said that “gear doesn’t matter” due to it being so abundant and wanted drops to be reduced. He was one of many that asked for this gear change.

But good job falling for the click bait. He did another video saying that this drop is normal

oof. late to this thread. Subs have always have had ebb and flow ups and downs. That is why I have always believed that Blizzard really ought to be putting out XPac long perks that take forever to obtain but then stay with you not just in title but in benefit. Look at the BFA legionaries. they took forever to obtain. Turn their perks back on in Timewalking. don’t have them running in SL. But who cares in TW. We run something and blammo I pop some stupid number in a damage meter because I took the time and paid my sub for 2 solid years four years ago? Getting rid of cancel culture in Xpacs would do wonders of the game as a whole.

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I would never take a roadmap as gospel anyway. Even WotLK cut a ton of content and ideas.

Or they swapped to a new avatar. Given how some of them ‘quit’ I also imagine some of them earned a forum vacation or two.

It’s not accurate at all. Since Blizzard isn’t sharing sub counts. All they have to go by are guesses when it comes to sub count. People are trying to infer that revenue = sub count, when that’s not true at all.

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They don’t quote subscription numbers. They show revenue and user numbers, which are obtained from Activision Blizzard’s financial statements, which I am assuming are these:

https://investor.activision.com/news-releases/news-release-details/activision-blizzard-announces-fourth-quarter-and-2020-financial

Since I am not into investor/financial statistics, I said I couldn’t comment on the accuracy but Im guessing others could.

You are correct, Superdata doesn’t mention sub counts (though they do also mention the data doesn’t include China.) others, such as Bellular are implying that the data from Superdata is meaning a drop in subs.

Superdata’s information comes from monthly spending.

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I doubt half the subscriber base left the game, but I do know this:

If a valid, fun rival for MMOG crown showed up, WoW would lose a huge amount of people overnight. An awful lot of people are playing because there’s not really any alternative, because all their friends are still in WoW, and because they have so much time and effort invested in it. But we’re looking for something else. And that should make Blizzard very uncomfortable.

I think a drop in revenue and user data would suggest a drop in subs, personally. Less money coming in from all sources in the game would suggest there are less people available to give them money. If you aren’t paying a subscription, that’s $X a month less they are getting x how ever many that applies to. Sure, it isn’t possible to be precise but what they say is :

"From November to January, revenue fell by 61% and user numbers declined by 41% (these figures do not include China). "

So we can safely say that user numbers declined by 41% (not including China). AB used the Monthly Active User as a financial reporting tool and, according to your report, that means -

“MAUs are the number of individuals who accessed a particular game in a given month.” So certainly it doesn’t mean that less MAUs means less subs (since you can have a live sub without actually playing) but it’s an indication of interest in the game. The less MAUs, the less people are logging on to play, which is certainly not a healthy sign for any game.

Anyone who has been on a non full server, which is the vast majority, would be able to say the same. Kilrogg/Winterhoof averages under 200 Alliance a night.

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Many casuals bought and sold wow tokens and bought stuff from the cash shop on top of their sub. Them leaving has a disproportionate impact on revenue.

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(Walks up with JNCOs and a backwards hat, grabs a chair, AND SITS IN IT BACKWARDS).

Hey guys, it’s cool to support your favorite game’s devs. Super hip, bro. Maybe we should give them a break, I bet they’re really working hard. Alright, well I gotta go ride my electric scooter to my job at costume city.

(Gives and awkward fist-bump/handshake/hug/back pat and walks away, as you notice the shirt is tucked into the underwear).

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