They arent an allied race.
At best, you will get customisation options for humans and blood/void elf.
oh, Thanks, I didnât know this.
ever heard of Alfheim?
Nope but have heard of
Skuld and Högni
So you resort to trolling. Tww lore is built on arathi lore. Arathi did not have allot of elves training them. 1 + 1 =?
So then half orgre/orc should just be bigger orcs then. If they can create a model just for rexxar thenâŠ
I mean it donât have a real arguement. The arathi wmpire lore is crystal clear on the elven interactions they had. And they didnât turn into a kingdom of half elves in the eastern kingdoms. The logic does not check out.
If your not 50% elf, your not a half elf.
Not even.
No.
its one of the differnt worlds in the norse mythology. tolkien did a crap ton of research into it. as you said he brought their version of elves into modern fantasy.
Not yet anyway.
Horde âHumansâ inc? lol
Yeah, Iâm not a huge Norse mythology expert, but I do know thatâs where half elves got their startâŠ
The Norse had to be on some good drugs to create all that.
Yeah, there is something that feels off bout the Arathi. An empire without ruins or other remnants.
Trolls and Elves have their stuff all over the place, but not the Arathi.
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most modern people who descend from europe have some norse blood due to their raids and invasions they scared they heck out of alot of the people back than.
Yeah, pretty much. People might have an issue with yet another elf, but thatâs what most people pick.
Though there are exceptions if we look at vulpera. Those are fairly common and seem well liked. But ugly furries like tauren and female pandas? Waste of resources.
I wonder where dracthyr would land if they looked a bit more cool.
No more elves please.
Add more monsterous races, its more interesting than any elf. We have plenty of those lol.
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100 Elves trained humans in the ways of magic, but that was 1,800 years before Humans and High Elves sailed off to the other continent and began a separate Arathi Empire. We donât have any lore for human-elven relations at that time, other than the fact that Dalaran existed.
For all we know, a significantly large group of High Elves joined the Arathi, maybe to repay the blood oath or such. We do not know the number of High Elves that left with the Arathi. We donât know how many live today, if any at all: they couldâve all died after the Sunwell was lost for all we know.
Correct.
According to the ret-con yes. And even then, maybe less then 10 went if we where pushing it.
As high elves where isolationists.
Because there wasnât any. Once the humans role in the troll wars was over the high elves broke off all relations with the humans.
The ones that did created dalaran. And stayed there.
The blood oath is a one time deal, and was only called on during the second war.
We donât need to. The high elves was isolationists. Itâs a given if blizz followed their own lore.
The number for that should be 0.
Like the ones that was in dalaran or other locations that didnât take the practice of mana-tapping?
Listen I know you guys are trying your best to push the agenda. But think about this logically, If elves was so willing to intermingle with humans, we be seeing more of a half-elf population at the place where elves and humans thrive the most; Dalaran, but we donât see that. And the ones that do exist is treated poorly.
Letâs not cater to blizz low quality work here.
Source?
You⊠might want a lore refresher.
https://warcraft.wiki.gg/wiki/High_elf#Troll_Wars
The lore has been clear on this for a long time. High Elves were absolutely enjoying friendly relations with humans after the Troll Wars, and not just those of Dalaran, either.
So, again, we have no indication of how many High Elves left with the Arathi to go across the ocean. There is no basis for that number. It could have been a massive amount, or a handful. There is no evidence of which, or what state their numbers are in now, 1,200 years after the fact.
The blood oath is to the line of Arathor. It wasnât a, âone-time deal.â It was valid so long as the bloodline existed. Coincidentally, if dialogue from Faerin Lothar is any indication, it still exists in the Arathi Empire.
Iâm not pushing an agenda, Iâm discussing the lore. As I have repeatedly said, we donât know how many High Elves are in the Arathi Empire right now. There could be so many they eclipse the Blood Elves, there could be none. I even said they couldâve died out due to the loss of the Sunwell (assuming they were, âvery old,â which was a group vulnerable to death from withdrawal). So, Iâm not sure what agenda Iâm supposedly pushing here.
My point is, youâre wrong in declaring there are none or hardly any other there, simply because we donât know. Your assertion that hardly any would have left with the Arathi is wrong, because we donât have any evidence. Your claim that the High Elves isolated themselves after the Troll Wars is wrong, as the Chronicles made it clear they continued to have relations with all seven human kingdoms up to the First and Second Wars.
Every metric by which youâve tried to explain why thereâd be few or no High Elves in the Empire is based on misinterpretations of the lore. That is what Iâm discussing.
Now, whether or not you think itâd be good or bad writing for there to be High Elves over there in whatever numbers is a matter of opinion, and Iâm more than open to discussing that. For now, however, we have no hard evidence for the number of High Elves on Avaloren, just that there were High Elves who went there with the Arathi, in numbers we donât know (enough for all the Arathi to have elven features at least, which suggests a pretty sizable fraction of the total population that sailed across the sea).
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How would high elves be any different from void elf in customization. You can take a normal looking elf with blue eyes as a void elf.
Blizzard would have to give them a new rig to really make them stand out properly.
Personally, Iâm in favor of using the Nozdormu and Alexstraza models as a basis for a new rig like that. Theyâre different enough from the standard Thalassian model that players would be getting something⊠a little new.
How theyâd justify High Elves looking so different, I donât know. At the risk of, âpushing an agenda,â as Greatbrae would say, Iâd speculate its possible any High Elves over in Arathi could look different. 1,200 years apart seems like a suitable amount of time to justify some sort of evolutionary diversion from those in the Eastern Kingdoms.
Problem is, thereâs no evidence to suggest how many High Elves are in the Empire, let alone if thereâs any at all at this point.
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Less half elves and more half orcs.
I support both.
If theyâre Half-Orc, Half-Human, maybe base the model after Medâanâs artwork. The lore character was a mess, but the art for him was pretty decent.
If theyâre Half-Orc, Half-Ogre, Rexxar already shows how good the Kul Tiran rig is towards that. Adapt that to add them.
As seen with pandaren. There isnât anything that would really be needed to changed. At most maybe some hairstyles and tattoos.