Had a good run with SOD but this is good-bye!

[Jackidaytona-wild-growth]

Solid points all around. Wish more people saw it your way.

[Archewing-azjolnerub]

@Shiftcakes-wild-growth

pvp experience

Burst meta good, super long fights are boring and you have both retail and cata for that. Play either of those. I disagree that Boomies are broken(No, I don’t play a boomy) Spriests dots I agree on. Shamans I don’t know anymore. They are for sure not at P2 levels anymore.

@Shiftcakes-wild-growth

nightmare incursions

You are wrong. Not about your opinion on but that It actually starts at level 25 not 37. Duskwood incs are more broken then ashenvale. I started them on an alt I thought it was crazy that not a single Stockades or SM besides cath was being hosted for the hours during prime time(week day prime time) on Crusader strike. I think its an especially bad new player experience.

@Shiftcakes-wild-growth

wild offerings

Honestly don’t have an big opinion on this I have pretty much done the bare minimum. I got my WO for rune from farming other random content. And can’t be asked to farm it otherwise.

@Shiftcakes-wild-growth

sunken temple:

My guild has significantly reduce our clear times and I have enjoyed it. I would say we’re casual+ or hardcore- lol. But our clear time went from first week no clear (had some slow levelers this time around so had no bench to fill:/ second week 5 hours, 3rd week 2 10 minutes. last week 58 minutes.
I think for a leveling raid it might still be overtuned. But for actual level 60 raids I can’t imagine they should be easier then current nerfed ST.

@Shiftcakes-wild-growth

SOD is extremely alt unfriendly.

I don’t agree yet. With Ashenvale and STV I feel it makes AB and WSG rep really approachable for alts. The new rep despite incs short comings awards you pretty well for your rep progress.

@Shiftcakes-wild-growth

I should have access to my sleeping bag on my all my alts. I should be able to purchase pvp gear up to the highest rank character on my account.

No lol? This is your actual character progression lol. Like saying once I get a tier piece from a raid my alts should have the same tier piece. That is just stupid lol. And the sleeping bag questline gives you rested xp food and decent xp from the quests. This is just a very stupid opinion all around.

@Shiftcakes-wild-growth

Economy is inflated:

@Shiftcakes-wild-growth

If you didn’t take advantage of incursions at the beginning of the phase or didn’t farm nightmare seeds at the right time, you’re not gonna have enough gold.

That is not true. There is still plenty of gold farming methods. No they aren’t as good as prenerf incs. But leaving them not nerfed would have just made the economy worse and worse.

@Shiftcakes-wild-growth

SOD has become new player unfriendly

Necessary evil imo. The suicide bots are gone now.

[Attention-lone-wolf]

@Shiftcakes-wild-growth

pvp experience: the class imbalances are absurd. Spriests/boomkins/shamans dominate bgs, and they are often in abused in premade comps. The pvp gear honestly doesn’t give enough stamina or resilience to mitigate the damage so youll get 1-2 shot unless you got a pocket healer.

Agree, but the damage reduction test they did was awesome…hope you didn’t miss out on that.

@Shiftcakes-wild-growth

nightmare incursions: I’d really like to hear some sort of apology from blizzard on this content.

Honestly whoever made these should be fired.

@Shiftcakes-wild-growth

wild offerings: interesting system but feels like incursions when you start trying to get them. Starts off strong with the intro quest (which should be shareable), but then you just go straight to mara to farm princess runs. After a short while, you run into the dungeon cap and have to wait like an hour to start doing them again.

Yet another cop out easy way to pretend they have “new” content. Also the 5 instance per hour lockout is totally stupid and should have been removed from wow a loooooong time ago.

@Shiftcakes-wild-growth

sunken temple: for the most part it’s a fun raid, but not designed for the average player.

Disagree, sunken temple is pretty easy…it just takes practice. If you don’t want to get good at something before you can do it then life is going to always be a struggle. ST is fine how it is.

@Shiftcakes-wild-growth

SOD is extremely alt unfriendly. Why do I have to grind rep and honor on all my characters. If seasons are meant to be short, I can maybe focus on 1 character to get all my BIS gear, consumes, etc. I should have access to my sleeping bag on my all my alts. I should be able to purchase pvp gear up to the highest rank character on my account.

This is a silly take honestly. Why would you get PvP rank on all your characters at once?

@Shiftcakes-wild-growth

Economy is inflated: in phase 2, most items were less than 30g with mats being worth less than 1-2 g. Now you need gold for everything, and some items (like darkmoon cards) are worth 500g+. If you didn’t take advantage of incursions at the beginning of the phase or didn’t farm nightmare seeds at the right time, you’re not gonna have enough gold. The only other option is doing lvl 50 incursions, fun…

Agree for sure, another reason why the person who created incursions should be fired.

@Shiftcakes-wild-growth

SOD has become new player unfriendly. Aside from the issues discussed earlier, I was deeply disappointed with the decision to restrict new accounts from the auction house, mail, and trading systems.

This was one of the dumbest ideas they have ever had. Literally so braindead it’s hard to actually wrap my head around. Fighting the RMT war so they nuked the civilians in order to try and put the squeeze on the enemy. Whats worse is they could just:
A.) Region lock servers
B.) Boot people offline who try to use a VPN

[Krickles-eranikus]

yup, i gave up on this rehashed 2004 trash.

I bought brotato for $5 and have had more fun on this than any minute on World of Dogcraft. I’ve managed 52 hours in Brotato which is .09 cents an hour at this point lmfao then compare that to this trash that is wow and im like, wait why do i pay $15/month to play test this trash?

[Hellbraive-queldorei]

@Tempestraine-arthas

Runes - I’m a solo player

SoD/classic isn’t for you then bud

They are trying to make it feel like an actual mmorpg.

[Nopales-wild-growth]

Indeed. If you don’t like you stop paying. That’s your only option and writing reasons why on the forums is not the end

[Azoog-faerlina]

They fumbled hard with the mass gold made from incursions before nerfing it after people saw how broken it was. So, the people who have lives/jobs missed out on the farm and they get to suffer because of it.

PvP is absolutely atrocious. 1-2 shotting everyone is crazy and has made the newbiest player feel like a god.

Its also crazy to me that SoD devs obviously can see how broken some classes are but are worried about other classes (Warrior) and hone it on nerfing them because of some trauma from 2004?

[Tsimbouki-yojamba]

you know what? You were right all along.