H+ proposed fix

Putting this our there for a Blizz Rep to “hopefully” pass this on.

1 - Separate Heroics and Heroics+ into their own LFG section like normal dungeons and heroics already are.

2 - Change the lockout to H+ to 1 week like a raid lockout or at least 3 days to prevent everyone from spamming H+. I mean, you can only get 1 satchel per day.

3 - Change H+ loot table to be only Nax25 drops only. Remove the reg heroic drop table.

4 - Mob difficulty is fine, but bosses are still really weak. It’s harder to get to the boss then kill the boss which makes H+s a joke still. I would take the 30% increase in dmg and health for bosses and make it 50%.

The goal is to make H+'s harder than they are and make the reward worth it while not screwing over fresh 80s that can’t get into heroics because the elitists want to run H+.

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Where does 10-man loot go?

In which Heroic+ are the mobs’ health +30%?

…which will be what happens if they buff any part of it.

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I feel like H+ is really good how it is. It’s pretty much exactly how I remember heroics feeling during original Wrath.

Heroics were NEVER this difficult in original Wrath.

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I didn’t say they were; I said it’s how I remember them.

Which tells me you didn’t play back then.

Which tells me you’re just looking for an argument for no reason, but who cares?

You do you.

I’ll continue having fun, enjoying playing a game that I like.

Not looking for an argument - stating a fact.

Sorry, I was basing my post on old info. Health is probably fine since it’s 100% increased but the dmg from the bosses are still very low and should be increased.

So, you haven’t even been in those dungeons yet then?

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This here tells me you’re not thinking about the whole picture. Back in the day, heroics seemed difficult because we didn’t have too much else to compare it to. For Axxo, he remembers them being more difficult, closer in line to what heroic+ is now. That doesn’t mean anything else outside heroic+ feels to Axxo what heroics felt like to him back in the day.

They weren’t difficult - we had heroics from TBC to compare them to. Nice try, though.

You do realize what you think is/is not difficult is different than what Axxo may think is difficult not/difficult, right?

It’s a common experience that heroics were, in fact, easy during Wrath’s original lifetime.

Given this, it’s either they didn’t know how to play, or they just… didn’t play back then.

If I said I’m scared of dogs, does that make dogs scary? No. Maybe not for you, but they are for me. Your experience and mine can differ even while having the shared experience.

At the roof of it, yes, dogs can become very scary.

Which encompasses my point regarding them not knowing how to play back then.

I could say I’m absolutely TERRIFIED OF holding a baby. Does that mean the experience is scary? Not for everyone. For me it is, for you, it may not be.

Also let’s not forget we’re talking about recalling an experience from 15 years ago. For Axxo, he remembers his experience 15 years ago being much more in line THEN to what heroic+ feels like now. Right or wrong. He’s talking about HIS experience and HIS memory of them. The fact that you’re so stuck in your own head that you’re unable to see that human beings are different and can feel/think/act differently is staggering.

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That’s cute.

I mean it shows. I see you around the forums, you like to create arguments out of thin air. You are only able to comprehend YOUR point of view without even being able to consider others may think differently. I don’t know if you’re that bored and need attention or what, but you got it now chief, let’s talk. I just ate a brownie and I’m good to go.

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Outside of this thread, what am I unable to comprehend?