Only after reading through forums and posts now do I see that throughout the years, there have been changes made to how power is transferred should a guild leader step away from the game. I don’t know if this was ever made evident to me in game or not, and really more than anything, this is just an ask for help regardless.
I think it was back in 2009 I started a guild with a few close friends of mine, some that I had only known in game. We worked that guild up multiple times, meeting people and letting it grow as time went on. Recently, a few of our guildmates all met for the first time at one of our tanks weddings and of course we walked out to that classic Warcraft login music.
I got a message in our Discord recently after not being on for a bit, but having asked the guildies if we were going to go big for the new expansion. One of our guys said he wasn’t showing the guild for some reason…and then another…
One of our members, who was certainly never one of the core or founding members…or even an officer, was somehow given the GM position, and removed everyone in the guild besides himself and his two alts.
Listen, I founded and grew this guild, and built a community of good people. Good people all ready to jump back in and play again until we saw our little home was gone. I’d like to think an exception should be made. Please.
Wingin It is the guild name, started as We R skillZ back when that was cool.
If u were afk for 90 the dethrone is available to anyone rank 4 or above unfortunately someone took advantge and now the guild is effectively his.
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Doubtful.
The Guild Leader dethrone is not something new. It’s been around for years. Features were implemented when this came out so that the guild leader could add ranks, with ranks 0-3 being able to dethrone an absent guild leader - from the next highest rank down. The guild leader had the ability to stop this from happening by assigning members a rank below the first 4 ranks.
Nothing Blizzard will do if you were dethroned and removed, along with other players. The guild belongs to whoever is guild leader now.
THe only time I’ve seen in recent years is if the old guild leader was still in the guild (as a different rank), and the guild was pretty much inactive, a GM has been able to reinstate the old guild leader toon to leader. Haven’t seen this happen recently, so policy might have changed on this too.
You’re welcome to start a new guild if you desire, of course.
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That doesn’t really mean anything. It only meant that they were of appropriate rank to dethrone you.
So it really isn’t a coup. Once the member was able to dethrone you, they became guild leader and the guild became their guild and they had every right to remove members or do whatever they wanted to do with it.
Now - there is a very, very small chance here, since you were the original guild leader who created the guild. You can submit a ticket and see if they’re able to do anything, just make sure that you mention you were the original guild master who actually created the guild.
Leave out the parts in regards to the other person not being a core or founding member. That is moot since you had initially set them at a rank that was high enough to dethrone you.
Now, you may get a templated response back originally. Just hit the bottom of the response to the tune of “I still need help,” and it will kick it back up to be reviewed by a GM. And don’t worry about the category I’m giving you. Guilds fall under interface issues since a guild is just an interface within the game.
Just to reiterate - this is not a guarantee that you will meet whatever metrics they use in the very, VERY small chance they can help you to reclaim your guild. In my years here on CS I’ve seen this work less than half a dozen times, but it only has a chance because you were the OG creator of the guild.
Good luck to you.
[Editting to add…] Just because I was curious, I went back into things to see when the Dethrone option was implemented. It was back in Cataclysm, patch 4.3.0 which was released on November 29th, 2011. So this has definitely been around for quite some time. A hotfix followed up in the follow year that made some changes to how the system worked.
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I suspect there is little Blizzard can do really in this case. While it’s a bit of a long shot, you could try reaching out to the other player and see if they would either give you or sell you the guild back. I do expect they feel they likely have as much ownership rights to it as you do however.
This is unfortunately a lesson many people will learn, and it’s a good reason to carefully manage guild permissions, both to make sure appropriate people can get control of the guild if you should leave and those who shouldn’t. If you are taking a break, its probably bets to promote someone, however if all key players in your guild are taking a break, say your going to a different server, its probably worth disbanding anyone you do not feel comfortable with them taking ownership of the guild.
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Yeah unless it due to a comprimised account the odds are very slim if he actively plays.
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Oh wow, so I was definitely wrong about when it was implemented, but that definitely doesn’t make itself clear enough in game then. I definitely didn’t see it anywhere; but I certainly will try to find the right avenues to make a ticket.
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Here’s the most relevant support article.
Note the following sentence:
If the new Guild Master doesn’t want to give you the leadership back, Customer Support will not intervene.
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There’s not really anything they’ll be able to help you with.
They’re the new GM until they choose to pass it.
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Youre not getting that guild back. Blizz doesnt get involved with guilds
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For the original guild creators, there have been instances where they were able to reclaim their guilds. I’ve seen it happen a few times in the past, but that doesn’t guarantee by any means that this case will come to the same resolution. And too, policies change. They truly may not step in anymore, even in this instance. It’s why I was clear that it was an infinitesimal chance, but they still had a chance.
You just have to click the link I provided in my previous post. Just have to click it and fill out the form to send it in.
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I thot those situations they were still in the guild but dethroned and the GM went afk.
There’ve been a couple different scenarios. And I’m pretty sure there has been one somewhat recently that one of the SFAs had chimed in on, with them being told to open a ticket, but go in with low expectations. So digging through to find that to link.
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Thats fair it cant hurt to try. im kinda surprised vrak hasnt chimed in.
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Yah, that’s what I’m seeing from the more recent notes. I don’t see that OP mentioned if the new guild leader is still active or not, so hopefully that would work in their favor.
Source
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If the new guild leader removed the old guild leader from the guild, that was intentional. GMs aren’t going to bypass the new guild leader’s wishes by putting that character back into the guild.
It never hurts to ask, the worst that can happen is they say no. But they will absolutely, without a shadow of doubt, say no.
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They didn’t just remove me, they removed the entire guild; which makes me think they’d maybe try to sell it? Or just use it as a bank?
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They can do what they want with the guild bank etc. They’re not breaking any rules.
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If the GM was afk for 90 days and the person was rank 1 , 2 or 3. Well then the guild is their’s to do what ever they wish. Nothing can be done! Blizzard is hands off with situations like this unless the gm’s account was compromised.
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