Guild Banks Pt. 14

Won’t matter to them at that point. The cash grab will have already taken place.
Remember:They don’t care if millions pkay or 10’s of people play.

I do not. This is actual inventory management because it has an effect out in the world.
Guild banks do not have that effect because inventory management only matters out in the world.
It does not matter in town. Where the gbank is located. Lol

You sound like my gf here. Lol

Yes I can. The need stems from the scam that they have the potential to be.
Also I’ve said little to no impact. In some instances they do the exact same thing even in operation.
That is why the convenience argument doesn’t quite hold up either. Convenience depends on the situation and from the users PoV who is inconvenienced.
Like I said. There are far more conveniently located mailboxes in Azeroth than there are banks.
Having to fly to a major city to deposit sounds a lot more inconvenient to me than finding the nearest conveniently located deposit only atm. I mean mailbox.

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Ironically, this quote is in reference to Blizzard shooting down a change advocate. It’s a counter-point against people (like you) who advocate for gameplay changes “for the health of the game” and whatnot. They don’t care if 1.0 to 1.12 mechanics don’t maintain a huge playerbase. Their goal is to deliver a product to a segment of the community that has been asking for it for over a decade now.

“We want to play the original World of Warcraft.”

If you apply “see a need; fill a need” to the situation, the “need” is for the original WoW. You can’t fill the need for original WoW by making it “Classic + Burning Crusade simultaneously.”

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Guild banks do not have that effect because inventory management only matters out in the world.
It does not matter in town. Where the gbank is located. Lol

I seem to recall that additional bank slots cost more money up to a point. Also having limited bank slots/bag space incentives tailoring professions to produce big bags etc. To me the game seems balanced around NOT having a guild bank. Storing resistance gear/off-sets and other consumables took space.

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I blame the OP for low likes. He has denounced alt brigading, like bombing and has went on record as saying he is not here for likes and doesn’t give two shirts about them.
Plus the OP can be a bit brash, arrogant, and sometimes this beast he has chained up is unleashed.
Plus he’s pwned more than a few people around here and pointed out the holes in their reasoning.

So you’re putting stock into a system that is known to be abused and calling it popular opinion?
Note. I have 3 accounts. 1 is almost at the 50 cap. The other one has at least 10 toons. This one has 2.
If I wanted to show “popular opininon” with likes. I very well could.
It doesn’t show popular opinion though because it’s an easily gamed system.

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Here, here, well spoken, Bruce™

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They did. So did guild banks and additional tabs.

Yes. Out in the world where inventory management mattered you needed bigger bags.

Now if this was blizz’s intention why allow a player work around of that intention?

Personal soulbound resistance gear? Yea those can’t be stored in gbanks.

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just curious, why is the water such a big deal to you?

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Other things can be, which makes room for more soulbound items.

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The only thing that affects inventory management is personal bags space.
This notion was debunked a year ago.

As for guild dynamics you are correct it 100% improves it

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By who? How? I disagree that it was debunked in any way. I challenge you to prove it.

Matter of opinion, and when opinion is involved, default to the original data (no guild banks.) One can argue that having no debuff limit “100% improves raid boss fights” but you’d still be getting a 16 debuff limit because that’s how Classic worked.

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Yea and I’d argue those other things are stored on gba’s the same as guild banks.

So how can guild banks be this detriment/trivializing of inventory management if gba’s are doing the exact same thing?
Either they both do or inventory management isn’t as core as some are trying to portray.
I stand by what I said. It only matters out in the world. Questing, farming, or gathering.
Edit: and dugeon runs but I do consider that out in the world. Not in town.

Problem solved, I guess. Looks like we don’t need guild banks after all.

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Wrong. Still have the scam. Which is what this conversation started with waaaay back in part 1.
The inventory management was just one of the things we’ve had to repeatedly show has some holes in it. Looks like swiss cheese…

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You act like guild banks have never been emptied out by disgruntled officers before.

Edit: Also, this got away from me, but I do want to mention this.

I think it’s hilarious that you’d rather blame the audience for low likes instead of blaming your bad idea, haha. You’ll do anything to avoid admitting that people don’t want guild banks, won’t you? I think it’s pretty funny to be honest.

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I want the world of Azeroth to be as authentic to the original game as possible. My opinion is that since Cataclysm water was not in Vanilla that it should not be available at all. Every player should see the world in the same way to get the same experience. There were graphics sliders in the original game for texture quality/grass/particles so if Blizzard ups those features a bit (higher grass density in demo, you could enable it in a config file) that’s not going against the original Vanilla experience.

Cataclysm water, besides adding a PvP gameplay change, was simply not in the game. So why add it?

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Those other things could just as easily been stored in the mail system or on a bank alt.

Run fact each account has 2000+ possible inventory slots on it. 400+ of which is the mail system itself which requires no purchasing of bags of any kind.

The inventory management in town argument against guild banks has been torn appart by these facts multiple times.

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Ok. I’m sorry but you’re going to need to go read the other threads.
Now I have to explain this again…
Gba’s can be scammed with no one ever knowing because there is no in game log.
Gbanks at least have a log for some transparency.
Never said guild banks would 100% stop anything. I have said they will deter it though.

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Gba’s can be scammed with no one ever knowing because there is no in game log.
Gbanks at least have a log for some transparency.
Never said guild banks would 100% stop anything. I have said they will deter it though.

100% Agree. Guild banks are a good change to the game. I still don’t want them in Classic as they were not available in Vanilla.

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I literally blamed myself. Lol
What I found funny was the “Will you still play thread.” Some couldn’t log onto their alts fast enough to say they would! lol

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And yet when that happens anyone in the guild can see that it happened and who did it. Which means removing that person’s access and possibly getting the items back via a ticket depending on circumstances.

The scam of guild bank alts is a bigger issue than a guild bank being cleaned out because with the guild bank alt system, you don’t even know it’s happening, thus you can’t address the issue and fix it.

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