Guild Banks Pt. 14

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2491

More ad hominems, cool. Where were you before you randomly appeared and started trolling the forums?

2492

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

2493

I cannot find the link at te moment, but the Blizzard statement given in an interview has been linked numerous times in the past.

The only reason given by Blizzard when they talked about the (at that time, upcoming) guild banks was the convenience they bring. They said nothing about security, scams, etc.–just the convenience they offered.

Ironically, that link was first posted by one of the guild bank advocates that claimed that guild banks were added for security.

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2494

Thats how the cool edgy kids do it now. When you are losing deflect by finding something the other person said not related at all to the topic at hand and sidetrack the conversation. If it works they pretend they won the argument they clearly lost.

They can’t make solid, actual points or follow something to its logical conclusion. Their posts are just bleating out words and then deflecting or moving goal posts.

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2495

I made a new account during WotLK, due to real ID shenanigans

2496

Galdor has spoken.

Apparently the number of likes on the top post indicates its success. Therefore, with 2446 replies and only 23 likes, this post is officialy “Bad”.

Galdor says that’s how we rate posts now, so live by the sword, die by the sword.

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2497

Did I upset you, bro?

You’re not going to get your multiboxing support, I’m not going to get Guild Banks. I guess we have something in common.

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2498

Nope, just enjoying your attempts to discredit the argument by attacking a different argument, and having them happily backfire on you.

Whether or not focus is restored to Classic to make it more Vanilla-like, has no bearing on the fact that you won’t be getting Guild Banks, because there’s no justified need for them.

2499

Let’s not make this more personal, I’ll let you have the last word if you want. We could also take this to discord if you want.

Anyone with a lick of sense can see that we’ve both made this personal. Admit it, or lie; doesn’t matter to me. Plenty of other liars I have to contend with on this forum.

2500

It’s not. Its pretty hilarious actually. I’m not using ad hominems, I’m poking holes in your arguments and debate attempts. If you’re taking it personally, that’s something you need to think about.

2501

I think I would like to give a shout out to lionspride as it appears he is actually going back and reading the entire part 14 thread as he has been liking comments from the start of this thread.

Regardless of his opinion, good job actually reading the discussion in detail instead of popping in, giving a comment and making the conversation run in a circle.

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2504

There’s been a repeated question of what is the negative to guild banks and I can tell you it is this:
Storage in Vanilla is LIMITED.
The ‘Free’ storage you get with a guild bank tab has a value greater than a bank alt with at least half the extra bank bag slots purchased, which you also have to purchase bags to fill.
This means than for every alt you can have more than double the bank space. Readily accessible, beyond the leave it in the mail for 30 days method.
This means more than double the stacks of materials, consumables, and gear that can be stockpiled in order to exploit the changing economy which will be being done as the phased releases of content come online.
Elemental Fire will have early value in Phase 1 MC and taper off as more fire res, healing gets better amd ppl over gear. Elemental Earth will skyrocket with AQ release.
Arcanite Bars and other t3 related mats will go through the roof when Naxx comes out.
Or maybe they won’t becuase someone has 8 guild banks fully loaded and supply exceeds demand? Or maybe becuase they played the first rounds well enough they have the AH on lock down.
Storage has to be limited and have a cost. Guild Banks that can be unlocked for a couple gold and signatures will inflate the economy by allowing long term storage of materials that would otherwise have to have been sold due to lack of storage space.

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2505

Yup and so important that blizz allowed players to cheese it with alts and the mailbox. So not as important as you’re trying to portray it as.
There have been suggestions to prevent players from doing this(guild member caps to allow buying tabs, smaller banks, higher prices ect) or just leave it as the optional goldsink it became on live. Cause inventory in the city has never been as important as you’re claiming. If it was blizz would have never allowed the work around of alts and the mailbox.
The only time inventory management matters is when you’re out adventuring or farming. This was debunked about 13 threads ago.

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2506

Anyone on this level of farming is highly likely a team of real money traders who are going to do this regardless of gbanks or having to use 4 accounts full of alts for storage.
Oh and they are smart enough to keep that supply seemingly low. Look up the diamond scandal. Artificially controlling supply is not a new concept. Especially if you have stockpiles.

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2507

How many gear sets do you keep on hand as a priest?
As a Warrior:
MC/BWL Fire, expect to be close to capped for Rag, less ok for most of BWL
Threat off pieces
DPS set
Mitigation set (Tier 1/2/2.5) and defensive gear.
Full Nature resist set once AQ40 comes out as soaker.
In Naxx Frost resistance set.
So one set equipped, and upto 6 in banks, 4 right from the get go in phase 1.
There’s a bunch of little souldbound stuff kicking around like shield and 2h, bullets/arrows, cache for jujus, cenarian beacon for songflower you cant store in the mail.
By the time you get ready for the next raid you’ve got at least a full bag or two worth of consumes, explosives etc.
At the end of the raid in order to deposit the gear and left over consumes in your bank it needs to be empty, or you play the mail game.
Now you have somewhat empty bags to start farming for the next raid.
You aren’t keeping 60+ stacks of bars or cloth or devilsaur leather in each of your 8 guild banks that you bought low to sell high on the AH when the market moves. You sell what you gather on the AH straight away and it keeps the economy turning over.
You can’t keep nearly as much on alts before the mail boxes are full and their bank space isn’t free as it takes gold and bags.
Guild banks are free/very low initial investment for a disproportionate amount of space.
Regular bank space gets up to 100 gold for those last couple slots. That’s several epic mounts across 8 alts on an account before you’ve even bought bags to put in those slots (20g travelers backpack x 8 alts x 10 slots (4 equipped, 6 in bank) = 1600 gold = 2 epic mounts worth of gold for bags alone.
So I’ll say it again:

Guild banks are free/very low initial investment for a disproportionate amount of space.

Who has been doing your debunking? Do they know what Math is?

2508

Alts are even cheaper and do the exact same thing. Store items.

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2509

was it in Vanilla? No

2510

Yes. They were called guild bank alts and they are a nice player run scam with no traceability or accountability due to no in game log tracking.

2511

Because EVERY “guild bank alt” was owned by an unscrupulous individual that would, with 100% certainty, make off with ALL the items they were housing.

Guild banks (or items in them) NEVER got stolen by these unscrupulous individuals once Gbanks were introduced.

Right?

:cocktail:

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2512

Actually the playerbase proved how many were willing to be unscrupulous thieves when no one understood how permissions worked.
Those logs proved that.

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