Are there not logs for deposits as well as withdrawals?
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Honestly a more serious question than people may realize. From my understanding on their communications, logs containing the data as a whole were deleted. And this seems to not just have impacted Guild Banks, but it had to have impacted the Character Restoration lists too.
The Character Restoration stuff was able to be restored from a series of backups Iâd assume, given I was able to restore characters I deleted twelve years ago this week. But the guild bank logs may not have been salvageable with them containing far more data than an average playerâs character list would.
I wasnât impacted by it personally, but itâs just unacceptable as a whole that this was even possible. Youâre telling me you did zero data backups of important systems prior to launching a massive consolidation of server lists with the Warband update? The incompetence that would require is insane.
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There 100% is. Iâd bet money they have the data, the issue is the resources ($$$$) involved to restore this data somewhere, and figure out what was lost and what wasnât and was legitimately withdrawn would be astronomical, and theyâd rather hedge their bets on people just shutting up and staying subscribed, and figure the ones who do leave will cost them less than the costs of doing a proper restore.
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The problem is with the data loss they literally donât even know what to give back.
Itâs the equivalent of you calling a bank and saying your money was stolen, so they check and their records show you didnât even have an account with them.
Even if they believe you, how do they go about restoring things when thereâs no record of those things?
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As someone who codes and has made mods⌠Yeah, unless WoW was very very poorly made. Inventories usually has save states that are updated constantly but also very trackable. If Blizzard knows this is an issue for a long time now, they shouldâve properly setup a log system by now which logs all the guild inventories to help keep track of what is being lost, when a guild inventory breaks and goes empty, etc.
Granted, WoW is very buggy overall and there are many many issues that been going on for months now so⌠I doubt Blizzard really did anything to log the issues and keep track of everything.
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It feels rhat way, either seeing if people actually quit, since this game is an addiction for many, or seeing if their token sales from the die hards will be sufficient compensation to keep this broken cash machine chugging along.
Hoping theyâre working on actually fixing it, and just doing a dog doo job of communicating.
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If you get tired of screaming into the void here, donât forget Blizzard has twitter accounts for both CS and Devs to tweet problems at. Honestly they seem alot more active there than here.
twitter handles because I canât link
BlizzardCS
WarcraftDevs
Not saying spam anyone or be rude or anything (that wonât help). Itâs just the lack of communication here (or between teams apparently) is leading to nothing but speculation as to what happened and if anything can/will be further done. Maybe another communication platform could get us any kind of information or recognition that this issue isnât fixed for ANY afflicted guild. Or maybe theyâll just ignore it there too. All this doom and despair posting here isnât going to help anything though.
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Especially in the case of Guild Banks. Most of those should be logged in their own database entries with details on the contents. Common sense would be that these entries all have some level of backup protection, but there are a lot of signs of incompetence showing for the expansion so far.
Weâve got this, issues with A52 entirely dropping offline something like 4 times before they even recognized it as happening, weekly resets just flat not triggering for large sections of players, and more bugs than I have ever seen on an expansion release to date since starting in MoP.
This just reeks of a massive level of rushing internally, and rushing leads to major mistakes. They could have accidentally populated the backups with the corrupted data in a blunder or something of the sort. Itâs not rare or unheard of with databases when someone is just not paying attention at the time of executing.
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I, too, can confirm that epic edition does not guarantee the streamer treatment. My 7 tab nearly full bank was a total loss.
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Hey mate, if you read through the discussion I replied to a comment similar to this back around the 704 mark. Everyone has a different play style. Iâd like to assume youâre trying to understand the situation and not just look for drama so I hope that helps.
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sir this is the MIDNIGHT EPIC EDITION NOW WITH GUILD BANK STORAGE PROTECTION INSURANCE!
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Not to mention thereâs transmog you can only get through crafting. If a recipe drops during a dungeon farm, itâs nice to have the mats to make it.
Regardless, the âItâs time to start freshâ argument is a bit of a slap in the face. Dragonflight is over, would that make it cool for Blizz to wipe any leftover Dragonflight stuff we have in our banks because itâs no longer current?
Weâre paying for the time weâre investing into the game. If someone spends 6 hours farming linen, no matter how useless that may seem to someone else, its reasonable to expect that linen to be in the bank where they left it next time they log in. Itâs not just about the stuff, itâs also about the time invested. The PAID time invested no less.
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You arenât discussing. Youâre poking a stick.
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If there was more transparency in the communication, there wouldnât need to be speculation.
Unless of course the communication weâve gotten is the end of it âŚ
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This has absolutely not been resolved to satisfaction. My guild only had a few stacks of stuff restored, 95% of their stuff is still missing. No way is this acceptable. This is a massive data loss⌠Itâs hard to feel secure in playing the game when stuff can simply vanish into thin air without compensation⌠This post feels a lot like an attempt at crowd control and damage consolidation⌠Never in TWENTY YEARS has something like this happened. It should not be taken lightly or lying down!
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My most affected guild has still received no mails whatsoever. One (and only one) of my other guilds has only had one cooking recipe returned.
Iâm still waiting for more items to be sent back or proper compensation.
This is not over.
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Some of yaâall donât know what happened to Earl and it shows.
Thereâs a point on which we agree. If they canât make the effort to send messages to the lowly peons from on high, then it seems fairly clear that they donât see any value in any kind of recompense.
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âŚand a very polite âdonât let the door hit you on the way outâ.
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