Key wording in that passage you quoted…
may have
Not did.
So no, it doesn’t make it a fact she created them.
Key wording in that passage you quoted…
may have
Not did.
So no, it doesn’t make it a fact she created them.
The passage contained ‘may have’ and it was because Khadgar couldn’t sure about that until we used Tear of Elune to unlock Light’s Heart.
And you know this. Read the context.
The naaru reacting to it doesn’t confirm she created it.
If we follow your logic, nothing can be fact until Blizzard confirmed it via literal texts like Chronicles. Is there anything within the lore you can say it’s FACT now?
We can say for a fact that Calia is undead, the Horde Council is the new leading government for the faction, that Tyrande has the Night Warrior power…that Southshore is now taken by the Alliance.
That Varian died on the Broken Shore as did Vol’jin. That the Winter Queen as some sort of sister related to Ysera. That the Dreadlords were a creation of Denathrius and resided in Revendreth…
Should I continue?..None of the stuff I mentioned is hypothetical, assumptions or opinions of a character…which is what your trying to use. Khadgar mentioning it might be does not make it be.
Woo we don’t know that. YET.
Maybe, Calia won’t be categorized as undead cos she was raised by Light. Maybe the Horde Council is a just illusion cos the Void Lords are manipulating the reality of the Horde now. Maybe Tyrande didn’t have Night Warrior power at all in the first place cos Elune’s power was intervened by Jailer!
Oh Maybe, Varian is not dead yet cos Gul’dan saved his soul and one day we could restore his body and soul altogether.
Should I continue?..What I’m saying is, if we follow your logic, everything can be retconned as ‘not-fact’ later. You are insisting it’s ‘not fact’ cos it’s retconned as ‘not-fact’ now.
You are gonna say “Varian’s death wasn’t fact” then, right?
Ok…I will comment one more time because now I get the feeling your trolling.
What Khadgar says himself is not fact. It is a fact he talks about the possibility. But it is not a fact that they are indeed created by Elune. Not yet anyhow.
It is a fact that the tear reacts to the naaru heart. But again that doesn’t confirm Khadgar’s hypothesis…
As for all the other stuff you spouted…being pessimistic about future storylines and potential retcons is pointless. it has nothing to do with what is happening and being discussed. For right now those things i mentioned are fact.
But once again, Khadgar’s hypothesis is not fact. It never was in the first place. It isn’t and wasn’t retconned.
Do you now? I get the feeling that you are trolling all along.
Cos like I said, you are insisting it’s not fact cos it’s retconned as non-fact now.
Read the context. Those who focused on the pieces of words ignoring its context are usually trolls.
That’s not quite true: If you do an experiment to prove a hypothesis you made, and exactly what you predicted before comes true, then you proved your hypothesis and you know: “What you say is at least not WRONG”, if it is 100% right is something else, but you could prove it, that you are not wrong.
What we know about Elune (Hardfacts) stand now is:
While that isn’t wrong, many people also have an incorrect definition of what a recton is. It does not solely require a direct contradiction. It is a piece of new information that imposes a different interpretation on previously described events.
Also using the words alone, retroactive continuity, Elune has been around for nearly 20 years now, never once was the Pantheon of Life mention when referring to her, so this new information is, in fact, retroactive continuity.
So the book is as useless as the shadowlands. As predicted.
Xal’Atat was called the upstart goddess. Who else is trustworthy to use the term “goddess”?
Elune has never used life magic. This thing is stupid.
She’s a moon goddess, not a freaking “caretaker of life and its cycle” goddess. It’s the reason she had light and shadow, and power over water element.
This is as close to a retcon as can be.
Elune also uses a new Tear of Elune to save the Heart of the Forest…so yeah, none of this new information diminishes what Elune is or isn’t capable of.
And with the new 9.1 info coming out about Elune, she may in fact be even more powerful than we realized.
No… it’s not about her ‘capability’ exactly. It’s about her cosmic tier. She is now just one of memeber of Titans.
Of course Elune can be even as powerful as First One. But the probability that Elune’s power will be described like that, or like, much more powerful than her SiStEr is quite low since she is now just one of them.
If, I mean if, writers describe Elune like that, then yes I’ll give them a credit. Really. But I highly doubt it. Instead, more plausible outcome here is that they will limit Elunes power, like, it wans’t Elune who did all this, it was First One’s power all along.
Or maybe they choose to go silence and leave First One mysterious so that all these shenanigans will remain unanswered again.
If Elune is just like the Winter Queen does that mean everyone can affect the real world like Elune does?
UNLESS when we finally meet Elune she has some sort of artifact or other story mcguffin that allows her to impact outside her domain.
There are surely the threads of possible retcons, as well as out right retcons. It seems these will be positioned as a “perspective”. But I don’t know if “Elune created the Naaru” was ever established as more than just a theory.
Put me square in the “Khadgar was laying out his theory, not stating a fact” column. He says:
He is stating what he thinks and going from there. He doesn’t state it as a certainty.
I don’t know about this.
Khadgar’s theory is that Elune created the Naaru and her Tear should unlock the secrets of the Heart. And the Tear works - but that doesn’t mean Khadgar is right about why it works.
A light hearted comparison :
I can grab a rock, and theorize that the rock is a tear of some goddess that created my house. I can then theorize that throwing the rock through my window will create an entrance because the rock is a Tear of the goddess that created my house - but really the rock just broke the window.
The Tear could have worked for a variety of reasons we aren’t even aware of. Like a link to the First Ones.
Yeah this is what I’m worried about. The ‘variety’ IS here NOW only because writers created someone called First One who didn’t even exist in Chronicles before SL.
Even before SL, I had the feeling Khadgar was only guessing, and the Tear could have worked for reasons we aren’t aware of. Perhaps we are just now getting clues as to why.
Fans have postulated on why Elune’s Tear was even considered a Relic of the Pantheon. She wasn’t a Titan in the Pantheon of Order that we had been dealing with. There was a lot of mystery and guess work going on with that Tear.
Even as I played Legion, I got the feeling that every one was trying to guess at why the Tear was working and doing stuff, but no one truly understood it’s origins or why it effected things.
So you thought like ‘No… there should be something more than Elune, there is no way Elune could create Naaru.’?
Or you thought like ‘oh, so, Elune created Naaru then.’
It’s about context. You can find the holes everywhere if you want to retcon things.
That’s what writers are doing now.