Greater pyro out of control

Kitanana-sargeras · December 4, 2018, 7:24pm

Well when you have a pc like me and get the boralus arena map and take 5 yrs to load reeeeeee. That and i just love bigger battles .

Maybe I am just wild or crazy and i like giant chaos erupting . Like if they were to make a rated AV somehow work id be all over that . I like objective type stuff over deathmatchy type stuff.

Thats why when i came from swtor and saw av for the first time i flipped out and was excited .

Magnificent-lightninghoof · December 4, 2018, 7:38pm

Yea… but you are comparing your damage ability to a Fire ability. Not some hybrid mage that has the slows and roots etc of a frost mage and gypro + burst of a Fire mage.

Point is, as a fire mage i have 1 root on a long timer. Against boomkin 2 of my CCs are completely nullified (poly/root). And let’s be honest, if you know comet storm or ebonbolt is coming you are shifting that root and LoSing.

Magnificent-lightninghoof · December 4, 2018, 7:42pm

I like them all, each bring something. Like duels, 2v2, 10v10, and ofc 40v all give me something the others don’t.

My 2s arena partner is a ret pal, so it’s fun and a struggle sometimes because it’s always DH-As rogue-fury war/ healer. So when we win it’s a nice rush.

Ironlocked-skywall · December 4, 2018, 7:48pm

Wait until hpriest has the reverse gypyro lol

Magnificent-lightninghoof · December 4, 2018, 8:06pm

Yea i saw that on PTR, oh boy.

Chroesire-bleeding-hollow · December 4, 2018, 8:15pm

It’s true. There really is no counter for a swarm of warriors, rogues, or hell any melee really. Best one can do is try to stay out of their path.

Chroesire-bleeding-hollow · December 4, 2018, 8:17pm

Make my other single target fire spells actually do damage again and I will 100% support the removal of GPyro. Go watch some old fire mage PvP videos and note how fireballs aren’t just shrugged off as an annoying itch like they are today.

Xtazy-frostmourne · December 4, 2018, 8:18pm

Long cast time, easily avoidable, outrange-able spell that can be silenced or LOSed. Seems fine. If your team does not interrupt them, and players don’t outrange/CC/LOS then they are really bad.

Khadayrn-emerald-dream · December 4, 2018, 9:07pm

With add-ons like HHTD being as prevalent as they are and Holy not having a spell like shimmer, I doubt you’ll see many G Heals actually going off outside of big fights in epics.

Kitanana-sargeras · December 4, 2018, 9:16pm

Holy is fine and can bring alot to the table i do the same heals in holy as i do in disc. Also holy has many great ways to heal vs disc . I even did a few rateds as holy was able to hold off a dh by myself and saved a flag cap in an etos .

So yes holy can do be just as powerful as disc ,when played right.

Bazongas-zuljin · December 4, 2018, 9:18pm

What’s the point of rooting a boomkin anyways if you’re not melee? I mean this could go on and on, I don’t ice block, they took away displacer, etc etc.

Either way GP needs some sort of look, other moves are limited by their own design, namely buildup, cooldown, or both. Get a couple fire mages in a BG and it’s panemonium.

Also needing adjustment (I think it’s getting one), that drain life warlock Azurite trait. It’s hysterical to see, it’s like a “delete” button.

Jugajr-emerald-dream · December 4, 2018, 9:21pm

They weren’t commenting on how Holy is doing but that they are getting a gpyro like heal. If I read it right.

Chroesire-bleeding-hollow · December 4, 2018, 9:24pm

Perhaps trying to get away when the boomkin isn’t the target that you care about/need to take care of, e.g. there’s a flag carrier or healer in the vicinity that needs to be taken down. As a mage you can’t poly them in that situation, which leaves you with nova which only works for half a second.

This has happened to me fairly frequently, with boomkins chasing me around mid in WSG or Twin Peaks when I really don’t want to be fighting them because there are more important things to do.

Bazongas-zuljin · December 4, 2018, 9:24pm

Someone else was saying similar in RBG’s the other day. I haven’t seen it personally (he’s a multiglad so I just generally take what he says at face value, lol)

Bazongas-zuljin · December 4, 2018, 9:27pm

At least you can iceblock and/or cauterize. Or even displacer around, they took mine away. Like I said this could go on all day.

Jugajr-emerald-dream · December 4, 2018, 9:30pm

You could be immobile

Chroesire-bleeding-hollow · December 4, 2018, 9:30pm

True, but if I’ve gotten to the point of cauterize or IB things have gotten pretty dire. My survival rate after either of those is easily less than 50% (I’d say closer to 30%), with the exceptions happening only thanks to good healers.

I only do randoms though, I’m sure it’d be higher if I were running with a good RBG team.

Bazongas-zuljin · December 4, 2018, 9:33pm

And this is relevant to the topic of GP. You can kick more frequently. Over 3 times more frequently.
If it came down to a 1 on 1 between you and I, I would have be very sure I outplayed you and didn’t make a single mistake. And hope I get lucky on procs. You have good defensives and safety nets I lack.

Redmyst-blackwater-raiders · December 4, 2018, 9:46pm

As a holy priest, I like what fire mages have brought to the casual game. It’s a twitchy, need to react fast element that was missing at the beginning of the season.

Holy priests do have great counters to gpyro - guardian spirit (gs) and miracle worker (HW:Serenity × 2). We also have a stun, AOE fear, and a blowback. If the mage is still free casting gpyro after all that, you have bigger problems than gpyro.

Yarrow · December 4, 2018, 9:54pm

You don’t actually stop the greater pyro, though; you just delay it for a few seconds.