Greater pyro out of control

[anon70654145]

Kicking a fire spell 10 seconds after infernal before they pop Dark Soul: Instability is pretty damaging to lock burst. Hell even kicking fire during havoc after infernal is pretty brutal to stopping damage.

[anon70654145]

Juga has no idea how to big bolt kids.

3 ROF will net me 80k-90k bolts or so. I stack haste though.

[Nawat-emerald-dream (Nawat)]

He is only 350ish ilvl. When he hits a high ilvl they are seeing more than 50k. What he sees only matters against somone with his same hp.

It really doesn’t hit for 50k though. My partner has 370 ilvl at 2k and it always hits lower than that outside of CDs. When we see destro the only reason I might kick a destro outside of CDs is to lock him out of both schools of magic. I’ll usually save kicks for sheep’s/GPS though and let cbs through because they tickle.

that glass cannon till he is dead or running away. /shrug

Fire mage is indeed squishy but really there are a lot squishier. Playing MLS people will sit destro. Not because he does more damage. Simply because he’s a squish without block, temp, shimmer and blink. He has one defensive CD that he uses to counter burst half the time.

I don’t want them to gut fire. Just think spammable 30% irrelevant of CDs on a separate school of magic is toxic.

[Nawat-emerald-dream (Nawat)]

Multiple mages on one team isn’t viable

100% this. Not saying to stack them like op. Just saying gp is dumb in it’s current incarn.

Kicking a fire spell 10 seconds after infernal before they pop Dark Soul: Instability is pretty damaging to lock burst. Hell even kicking fire during havoc after infernal is pretty brutal to stopping damage.

I still don’t think it’s that great to kick fire? You kick it and it leaves open fears which lead to free immolates anyways. Save all stops for chaos and you’re probably fine (more from an arena aspect anyway). You’d know better though. Still think cb has more cost reward though than gp. Also I would agree to have current cb tied to stuff moved around.

[Jugajr-emerald-dream (Jugajr)]

I’m gonna try out this rof tonight. Never actually knew about it till these threads. What about rof makes it hit harder?

[Bluster-area-52 (Bluster)]

RoF spends 3 shards each time you use it. Grimoire of Supremacy increases CB dmg by 8% for every shard you spend while infernal is up. So 3 RoF increases CB dmg by 72%. Have you not been doing that? Dunno how you’d ever kill anything as a destro lock otherwise.

[Jugajr-emerald-dream (Jugajr)]

Nope I use grim sac. So grim sup and use infernal as pet? Or the 3 minute cd infernal? Sounds like a lot of work for something 3 simple cbs can do.

[Toughguybob-bleeding-hollow (Toughguybob)]

Abomb doesn’t even play this game. Just subs for forums.

[Abombanation-darkspear (Abombanation)]

Man all the people in here defending gp are hilarious. There are literally zero equivalents to it.

CB had actual cost attached to it. CB might do more damage every 3 minutes but it definitely does less in between. So save your stops for that time, no problem. Gp is spammable and completely unreliant on CDs to do damage.

If you ground or reflect a cb there goes their damage and shards. Ground gp? No probs just re spam it.

Kick cb and they are locked out of everything?!?!?! Everything. Kick gp? No prob, hold my drink while I poly your healer for days (or in a 1v1 poly you and then recast your spammable gp). Oh you go to cast your own spell (say fear as has been described), no prob arcane lock is on a different School of magic.

To compound the issue of spammable and absolutely zero cost the mage only has to land one and the person is dead. Follow gp with instant meteor and pyros for the rest of the health. A cb lands? Np they have almost no damage to follow up.

Anyone defending gp clearly doesn’t understand PvP mechanics.

Thanks someone who understands educating the uninformed.

[Nikthius-jubeithos]

Seen abom on a prot pally in an av.

What kind of dirty player plays prot pally

Edit: shhh it’s our little secret!

[Jugajr-emerald-dream (Jugajr)]

Pretty much.

[Doragødx-frostmourne (Doragødx)]

You are trying to ignore the fact that a Fire mage does to much instant dmg on a PvP training dummy. It’s too much dmg and it’s all instant. It has to change. You shouldn’t be able to line it up with Gpyro. The instant dmg needs to be changed.

This is a damage mechanics issues along with being tremendously overtuned. Creating a broken situation. These are the facts.

[read with overly played dumb voice]

3 sec Gpyro is instant damage.
Combust + Meteor.

3 globals is insta dmg.

You know people have run Double Fire Mage at 3k rating in 3’s right? Literally is the most broken spec in Rated play right now. Just stack the gimmicks and win. It’s super broken.

Like who?

if people are losing to memes at 3k then they’ve slipped up.

land one and the person is dead

You’re grasping for straws so badly you’re trying to argue mathematical fact.

Thanks someone who understands educating the uninformed.

funny how you don’t ever play rbgs and the person you’re referencing is sub 2k.

clearly a casual problem.

[Apollokai-rivendare (Apollokai)]

On my fire mage, I go after tanks. I hope Blizzard won’t detect fun with great pyro blast.

[Nawat-emerald-dream (Nawat)]

You’re grasping for straws so badly you’re trying to argue mathematical fact.

Lol I’m really not. If you’re struggling with fire mage it sounds like you should go watch some of xaryus videos. He’ll teach you how to do it.

He will cast gp a bunch and literally all it takes is one gp to go off and then he pops combust and all the instants =dead.

3 sec Gpyro is instant damage

It acts like it’s instant because of the travel time. You can pop all your instants and have them land at the exact same time for pretty near to 100% of someone’s health. Again it sounds like you should go check out xaryu. He plays at 3k+

person you’re referencing is sub 2k.

I’m also probably one of the few people in here that is over 2k in anything. Thanks for the real classy call out though.

[Bazongas-zuljin]

Fire mages aren’t even that popular in rbgs. Maybe yolos they work cuz… yolo

I’d think having 1 fire mage is essential. Having two mages, one fire and the other fire/frost depending the map would be ideal.

[Ragarèn-emerald-dream (Ragarèn)]

This thread is on !

[Vanx-shandris (Vanx)]

He will cast gp a bunch and literally all it takes is one gp to go off and then he pops combust and all the instants =dead.

Had a fire mage do this to me recently and sure enough, he died.

[Tyeias-dalaran (Tyeias)]

I agree …

[Jdpp-zuljin (Jdpp)]

Feel like you sneeze on fire mages and they die tho.

[Nawat-emerald-dream (Nawat)]

Feel like you sneeze on fire mages and they die tho.

Once again. They’re pretty squish. Try playing something like MLS though. They ride destro all game long. Not because the destro does more damage that’s for sure (off burst CDs anyways).

Blink/caut/temp/block vs long CD port and one wall.

Even rmp half the time we train mage to stop cc but kill rogue because he feels squishier.