Grats blizz personal loot working as intended

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Well im sorry you are upset then.

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UGH dont even get me started on the TF and WF system, horrible

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Waaaaa my purples that weren’t mine. Waaaaa you cant give me YOUR loot waaaaaaaa

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I would like to see guild groups be able to use master looter :frowning:

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Then don’t raid with a group that runs it. Limiting the ENTIRE player base for nonsense like this is what created the problem in the first place. Players should have options.

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On the plus side in this story the rogue was’t able to be forced to give up the socketed cloak in the first place

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No, it’s just that people don’t understand how it works and they’d rather whine like little children.

It’s based on slot. The thing is 2-H weapons only count towards Main Hand. Not both.

So using the rogue’s example above, although why he’s complaining since Rogues can’t use 2H weapons, that 385 Staff will only count towards MH while that 375 dagger can count as either MH or OH. If they’ve equipped an OH that is 375 or higher, than they can trade that dagger.

Same with Hunters. If you have a 395 bow equipped and a 390 gun drops, you can trade that gun even if you’ve only ever equipped a 370 gun prior.

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Sadly between master loot scams and “guild trials” that were really a veiled attempt at loot scamming also, master loot from the customer service side was probably taking more ticket time then was necessary. I remember before the change that there was at least 1 post a day on the cs forum with some kind of master loot scam. I’s too bad too many pug groups went out of their way to break the system we had, to force development to take this leap. Even with a “guild group” maser loot rules, there were ways around it to work the scams even more.

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51

That sounds like a problem with stats and class balance, not personal loot.
Do we not agree that a 10 item level upgrade on non-rings should always be an upgrade?
Stam and Strength are too valuable for me, so it would always be in my case at least.

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I don’t want someone else to decide if I get loot or not. I don’t beg for other peoples loot, and I don’t like when others beg for mine. I personally wish my loot didn’t show up for others to see at all. What I loot is mine and mine alone regardless of who I run with.

Unless I decide of my own will to give that loot away.

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…the whole point of trialing is to see if that player is a good fit to BE a core raider. Why the heck would you treat them equally?

This is the problem with the masterloot debate. Blizzard listened to people who have no flipping clue what they are talking about.

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And the only possible solution to these “scams” was to completely remove master looter as an option? I’ve raided (to some extent) in every single expansion, and the VAST majority of the time was in some kind of structured master loot system. I have literally never seen a single case of these “loot scams” or heard of one from someone in game.

I question how significant of a problem it actually was.

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55

Yes it is.

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What’s your source on that? Because to be honest, I think rampant titanforging is doing just as much if not more damage than high level guilds split farming. One effects every level of raiding and the other only effects those at the higher levels.

Of course, that’s just my own personal opinion.

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Or a stupid RNG on top of RNG on top of RNG gearing system that turns the gear treadmill up to 11 and makes power creep an exponential force that is practically game breaking by the end of each expansion.

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Umm gee maybe I have other characters? That still effects casters and people who use a 2h weapon.

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And this is what people don’t get. All their little anecdotes about “Well, I never had any problems with ML” means nothing. It’s what Blizzard is seeing. And if they’re getting lots of tickets on an issue, they’ll come up with systemic fixes.

That’s why we have an item restoration tool on a web page now. You used to have to petition a GM to get it restored. Same with loot trading in dungeons/raids. If the ML messed up, a GM had to fix it. Now they can simply just trade it themselves.

And I already explained how that actually works. Go back and re-read it.

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If a green says it, then it must’ve been a HUGE problem. :roll_eyes::roll_eyes:

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I know what ilevel they cleared at and it didn’t constitute “overgearing” from a numerical standpoint (it never does for world first) but they still “overgeared” it in the same way top guilds always do which is by acquiring an ilevel higher than what is intended/expected for players in week 2-3 of a new tier.

Removing ML didn’t change it at all and M+ farming probably had them better geared than split runs would have anyway.

I’ve followed this issue closely since the start since it actually affects me on a weekly basis and isn’t some hypothetical issue I’m pondering from the sidelines.

Curbing split runs or making raids easier wasn’t the reason and isn’t true anyway because Mythic seems just as hard as ever to me even if you massively outgear it.

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Anecdotal evidence imo

There is nothing anecdotal about blizzards idiotic loot rules.