I do not understand why Blizzard seems to allow this to constantly happen. They are easy to spot and catch. Look on the AH you see it everyday ordinary worthless items up for sale for crazy amounts of gold. The seller has the buyer put it on the AH and then they buy it to get the gold to the buyer. How is this still happening Blizz? Go log on and look through the AH its all over the place.
A worthless gem worth maybe a gold on auction with a 1000-2000 gold buy out. Blizz could easily ban the buyer and ban the seller as soon as the transaction takes place. Run a trace on both offenders activity would also help them verify the offense. I am just tired of them ruining the normal gameplay of the game. Makes it hard for honest players to earn what they need. Anyway I sometimes think Blizzard allows it to get the monthly sub money because banning them would end that source of income. I hate it!
I’m surprised that blizzard isn’t using AI to ban bots/gold farmers at this point. The number of bots farming gold for these companies in classic is insane. On Whitemane, 50-100 lvl 60 rogue bots are frequently flowing in and out of ramparts farming chests. I found new bots farming kara last night, lvl 70ies under mages walking through walls to get into kara. There are tons of bots in front of UB and SP now; I mind visioned a toon that was acting weird yesterday…he ran across the zone unmounted, got to a spot above the underbog, and then fell through map and landed directly in front of the entrance of UB.
Yesterday I was fishing up golden darters to make some raid food. An alliance druid flew down and started killing people by the horde base around the lake. Not a single person fought back, and then I realized they were all fishing bots.
It seems like working through logs could quickly identify these bad actors doing X repeatedly for weeks on end. I assume that blizzard has a financial incentive to allow bots to operate to get the $. Banning bots too quickly would eventually cause them not to sub and buy the boost. If the bots can operate for a few weeks, they can promptly re-coup their money through gold sales, making it worth it to keep coming back.
You missed the #1 method of transferring gold. Gold sellers will run GDKP’s and trade gold at the end of the run to make it more as a legit transaction that is much harder to track/prove.
Yeah run of the real players and then the paying bots leave because they have no more people to sell to. Blizzard knows this, but they just move too slow on the matter.
You unironically just admitted to buying gold. You’re defending something you know is against the EULA, that you know us harmful to the longevity of the game itself. The only reason you would do this is if you benefit from it directly yourself.
The clincher is that you insist it “isn’t a big deal” because “everyone does it.” Attempting to invoke an appeal to the majority as a defense.
You just admitted to buying gold on Blizzard’s official forums.
Not sure if you are replying to my post or another, but I would love it if Blizzard perma-banned gold buyers, gold sellers, & even game exploiters/boosters for that matter. But, I know that would put their game out of business in 2022, thanks to the modern mindset of most people to accept cheating & sociopathic behavior in general as normal, acceptable behavior thanks to our RL culture that celebrates, rewards & cultivates it.
I think it’s a little nuanced for Blizzard at this point. Pretty sure I read something about people in third world countries farming and selling gold to survive. Maybe they take such a weak stance against it because they are aware of this also? And we all know how Blizzard would like us to think of them as altruistic. Who knows? I have reported two bots in the last few months and received confirmation that they had action taken against their accounts. So, they’re doing something.
Blizzard shouldn’t care about anyone trading gold. The problem are the bots and cheaters that create malicious gold. Btw, on my realm, people with gibberish names are putting up every item in sight with low bids but massive buy outs. The intent is to screw with people’s auction mods and pray on anyone that accidentally buys it out. You’re advocating that people that accidentally get ripped off now get banned as well.
There is an old blue post about this very thing and how it doesn’t work the way you believe it does. I will try to summarize their findings and reasoning a bit. When you perma ban player A after buying gold, that player now have 2 courses of action.
Never play the game again losing out on revenue.
create new account.
If they use option 2. This creates a new issue. This new account has no personal connection as the player doesn’t care about this new account as much as their original. They also need to catch back up to their old account thus being more incentive to skip as much as they can.
Gold sellers never keep gold on a single toon and might have have alot of holdings on what appear to be legit accounts used by players who just work with the gold selling sites. Or players themselves sell their gold on sites pooling together to make money. This would be hard to track as its split across so many non sketchy appearing means. Some means can be banned and with reporting do get banned but with the scale at which non tos activities operate it might appear its not a constant fight.
Sadly there isnt some ai/team that can simple find and ban everything that is going on all the time as its always changing, new accounts being made, etc. If it was easy it wouldn’t be a problem for every mmorpg game out there. As long as there is a way to make real money there almost always is some 3rd party way to go around it for games.
While I’m sure some of them are gold sellers/buyers. a lot of times that is people putting stuff up like that in hopes that someone clicks buy without paying attention. People have been doing that since the beginning of WoW.
There is also ye old 1000 gold item…when its worth like 1. Silver.
That uses the buyer beware setup to AH trading. Its on the buyer to know its a 1 silver item. Or maybe they deem it a 1000 gold. or its part of a sale of 1000 gold. Who knows…
Downside to free market AH lol. Did player x post 1000 gold item to scam to see what person wasn’t paying attention to the list price or was it a darker purpose.
And Classic AH makes it even harder. Even with sorting its still a jumbled mess of 500 items on a search. Retails newer layout…you can’t mess this up. Ah there is the 100K gold say strong fishing pole. Either this player is seeing how far they can scam it. Or its RTM.
Since 99.999999% of wow has to know at this point strong fishing pole is a 10- to 15 sliver item that will be in stock. If not today, probably tomorrow. Check the fisher dude for a week, it will be there one of those days.
There is nothing against the rules paying for an absurdly expensive item someone posted, it’s your gold and you can do buy whatever you want with it.
