Your sneaky attempts to reverse the nurf will not work, bear.
Bears already do good tank DMG. This is a red herring.
It is not even necessarily about doing good tank damage. It is about making the rotation more forgiving. I am not a cat main. I donât want to juggle plates when swapping to cat to to a little more dps. I use this glyph to make the rotation easier.
Bears should do the most damage as tanks. We are the hybrid tank. We have the least amount of actual tank tools out of all the tanks. The thing that sets us apart is that we do more damage by shifting to cat form, and have utility with innervate and rebirth. Why should that get nerfed?
Warriors keep saying that they should do more damage because they have less utility. Do you think that is wrong as well? It is the same arguement.
Bear. Was. Buffed. Just take your threat buff and donât use the glyph that was never intended for you to use while tanking anyway.
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Not seeing where bear was buffed on the PTR.
The threat buff happened months ago.
It was given a compensatory buff when they first put in the naturalist nerf.
The nerf got reverted without the threat buff being reversed.
And is much less after the nerf, you have a 95% damage modifier and the threat modifier is a multiplicative value off of the damage, this affects that and itâs naive to not think it does.
It does if youâre using the OoC glyph as a bear. It wasnât added for bears. If itâs not good for bears⌠use a different glyph!
Yes so the most feral role, offtank gets shafted. You tank when you need to and cat in the downtime, the 2 tank taunt swap meta very much benefits having the omen glyph because youâre not going to be in bear the whole time unless you go afk to get a beer or somethingâŚ
They increased the multiplier back then so it wouldnât be a nerf.
They kept that buff when naturalist was reverted.
At worst, bear threat is back to where it was before blizz messed with things.
Making your dps while not tanking in tank spec higher was never the intent of the OoC glyph. If itâs bad for bears, simply donât use it, and youâre the same as before but with a threat buff (since halfway through P2).
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So itâs still awful and any nerf/buffs to it are a moot point.
You donât have to keep dismissing other peoples opinions. We are here to bring attention to a specific topic. You are making no valid points towards the original topic, just throwing out information adjacent to the topic, then dismissing us.
If you think that blizzard intended for this OoC nerf to also nerf damage done in bear form, you are welcome to throw that opinion out there.
Saying bears already got buffed, the original OoC buffs had nothing to do with bears, or any of the other information you have posted is not relevant to the specific topic of discussion.
Reguardless of any of that information or how we got here, we are in a position currently in the live game where myself and other bears use this glyph.
They are making changes to this glyph to reduce damage done by feral cats.
We are simply asking then to add a while in cat form to the text so we still have the option to use it. Obviously we could use a different glyph, but that is not the purpose of this post.
Bears do more DMG than any tank but pallies.
My 99 tank parses would be blue parses for a bear tank. Your point?
You have better threat and take less damage. If bears did not do more damage than you as an off-tank, there would not be much of a reason to bring a bear to a raid.
Iâm with OP here. This Nerf inadvertently affects offtank feral. Simply making it so the dmg reduction only applies to cat form would be the best move to make here.
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God, you guys always try to make up some BS excuse as to why you canât be nerfed, because of some fringe case.
No one brings a bear to a raid, because they do slightly more dmg.
Cmon⌠You know the reason. You were going to do more damage than people with the pinnacle legendary weapon of the expansion. Thatâs ridiculous.
This nerf was already planned too⌠They tried to implement it on the 1st balance attempt, but you all threw a hissy fit, because you said it would nerf you in pvp.
Iâm sure you want to burf warriors 
The issue was and will forever be for Feral Combat druids is that those who did Bearweave or Flowerweave received far more benefits than those who didnât. Cat has always been this weirdly large gap specialization where the floor and ceiling are leagues apart. Bad cats are undeniably bad, good cats are extremely good and there are few players in between. (This is also ignoring catâs history as like, alternating periods of being a meme, irrelevant, or being so broken we keep getting nerfs back to back across the whole lifespan of WoW).
Either way, Bearweaving wouldâve been fine if it were some specific niche specialty to eek out more damage than those that didnât roll that way. Only that wasnât the case. See hunters getting to launch traps at range now; Trapweave wasnât optional if you wanted to well, be competitive, even if that means an above average, not even amazing parser.
Also, some of us also want to play in Cat Form and not beep and bop into other forms nonstop. I never liked Powershifting and used it solely for the fact because I had to. Give me my chance to actually focus on my class theme and fantasy that I want to play without making it totally inviable. Any of us cats who have been cat for all of Classic already all did our song and dance of stupid stuff like wearing Wolfshead Helm and farming Manual Crowd Pummelers, and making thousands of potions to chug if certain changes never went through. Point being, choice goes both ways, and I wish there was a hybrid spec option so people could play their weird (I guess appropriately Druid of the Claw) bear/cat fantasy out.
But also, donât penalize us, yes, us, the druids who donât like Bearweaving or Flowerweaving for just wanting to main Cat Form - our actual, supposedly realized specialization after two whole epxansions. Which comes right back around to where this nerf would leave us. Itâs not a real issue and thereâs not suddenly going to be 100,000 Feral Combat Cat druids pouring into Icecrown Citadel where there were a billion death knights, paladins, and warriors before. Cat isnât going to magically dominate except in the fringe, if that.
Feral druid nerf reverted, we can go back to looking at cat pics.
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