Gladiator should be a participation reward

PVP Arenas
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rank 1 cutoffs going as far back as mists of pandaria to determine how many players were on the ladder as factual data

me personally playing every single one of those seasons and watching 0.5% cutoffs in all of them as anecdotal data

same line of logic says you cant realistically include people that don’t actually play the game
that’s basically voting with dead people

i was a PvE player long before i was a PvP player

every guild i was apart of had players either

1 - cap conquest for PvE upgrades on new alts or at the start of a new tier
2 - late into farm dabble in guild arenas usually unsuccessfully

the amount of one time players isn’t directly connected to lack or reward or unfun gameplay

it’s associated more with wow being a PvE game with a 10x bigger PvE playerbase that might occasionally drift over and dabble in our mini game a single time

roughly double give or take

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maybe not explicitly

i understand your perspective and i understand why you in particular have that perspective

the reality though is that there should be more rewards but you start getting them at 1600 which is a rating that has almost 0 players with triple digit games played at overall

while i understand that “the majority don’t get to 1800”
i think the majority you’re including aren’t real and shouldn’t be the driving force behind your thoughtprocess

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take thT back

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…You want a gladiator mount dont ya Swole?

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i honestly don’t understand the weird obsession that people have when wanting that mount. maybe you can explain it to me why its so important to you?

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Mighty robbo when will we terrorize elwynn in our raw dog interrogation of the healers to show them true chutzpah

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Its a cool exclusive mount you can never get again. You want one pal and theres no shame in it. Covlol comments?

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It’s a cool dragon with armor. :dracthyr_love_animated:

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see maybe i’m just not that narrow minded to want something just because it wont be available again. and you actually can get it again, just from a different season.

eventually you’ll be so good that you have them in your bags and you never even use them because the marginal utility of the mount goes to poop.

i just play the game cause i’m a nerd who likes rpg buddies. i care very little for mounts.

but yes, i do care, just not that much.

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logging in now buddy, its time

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i bet you wanna play with a 2100 assa rogue next and pull them out the trenches

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you make it sound so romantic

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some mounts tho right. el oh el

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They’re not bad looking.

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Challenger mount, rival mount, duelist mount, glad mount

Also instead of getting different pieces of mogs at different ratings…

Make completely unique mogs at each rating.

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that is an absurd amount of work for the art team ngl

i think it’s more realistic to expect better cloaks like the ones from SL covenants or something

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Pfft they get paid to do it and with help of ai it should be ez pz.

Blizzard being a billion dollar company will not get any sympathy from me.

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it is a participation reward if you actually play the game

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I disagree with the “whole purpose” thing. Part of the purpose is to give people goals + rewards that are commensurate with the level of difficulty associated with being able to reach those goals.

Turning every reward into a participation trophy at best would boost participation up to the point that people collect their mount, mog, etc. before they quit.

It could also cause participation to drastically plummet, especially after all of those people get the no-skill required rewards. It wouldn’t be much different than things are now, where you have Kate, Jack, Jin, Sue, and Syed all quitting after they hit their respective goal of 1800 for the mog, 2100 for the enchant, etc.

Rewards are only meaningful when they are challenging to achieve.

If everyone could bench 400+ pounds and have a six pack without doing anything outside of benching the bar for 1000 reps and eating nothing but fast food, then who would really give a sht (it wouldn’t be impressive or meaningful anymore)?

If everyone made 100k/yr, 200k/yr, 1mil+/yr, etc. by dropping out of school and living with parents, who would really give a sht (it wouldn’t be impressive or meaningful anymore)?

If glad mount was free to everyone just for tanking mmr and farming wins at low mmr, who would really give a sht (it wouldn’t be impressive or meaningful anymore)?

These might not be great examples, but you get the point.

Aspire to be better than you were the day before. While I’m sure there are some exceptions, if you REALLY wanted to achieve ANY reward in this game (or out of it), you COULD do it (but most unhappy with the reward level they reach (in game or irl) aren’t willing to put in the time, work, humble themselves, accept constructive criticism, etc. that is required to grow/improve).

If you REALLY want the glad mount (or anything for that matter), stop thinking “I can’t get that because of x, y, z”, and start thinking “Let me figure out what I need to do to get that”

I think it’s boosting participation in the 2100+ bracket yes, just as the enchant boosts participation in the 1800+ bracket, and the elite mog boosts participation in the 1600+ bracket.

WoW arena participation as a whole is bad/suffering. The glad mount being difficult to achieve isn’t the reason lol (or at least not a meaningful one).

Accessibility, outdated/scuffed LFG, barrier to entry (aside from gearing), need for addons, the game being 19 years old, better quality/more accessible/better balanced (without pve interference) pvp games being out there (if you aren’t super into wow arena), blizzard’s unethical behavior(s)/action(s) as a company, etc. are way bigger contributors to wow arena suffering from low participation than any single cosmetic reward (imo at least).

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They can do glad mount recolors

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It already is. Gladiator became a participation reward when you could earn it anytime during the season after x amount of wins at x rating. That is the definition of “participation” reward.