Give Worgen Tails (Part 1)

[Gauroth-lightbringer]

They believe your opinion is tainted because they play a tauren and hate furries, meaning they are a closeted furry and envy you for being open about the sub-culture they so desperately want to join.

[Zengin-mankrik]

@Chespin-gundrak

You do realize blizzard knows 95% of this thread is useless and bloated right? Without it’s dedicated team of bumpers who constantly catch more commenters this thread probably would’ve been locked a long time ago.

u antis usd 2 say the aame thing wen we askd 4 high elfs and here we r

why does it bother u so much ?

give us worgn tails, we wan them, blizz ignore toxic antis

[Turbokilla-caelestrasz]

@Zengin-mankrik

u antis usd 2 say the aame thing wen we askd 4 high elfs and here we r

why does it bother u so much ?

give us worgn tails, we wan them, blizz ignore toxic antis

Can anyone translate this for me? Cheers.

[Cow-sargeras]

@Chespin-gundrak

Where do people get this idea that new race/combo’s is going to bring in the playerbase? It’s never done it in the past.

@Cow-sargeras

I’m not talking about just worgen customizations, but letting players have the ability to play anything they want, look how ever they want, and play with whoever they want regardless of faction and race

I brought up a example and talking about in general and not just one thing. More things is a good thing that let’s players have more options. You can look at those 3 listed examples and see that those did indeed bring players in at the time, both former, and newer players.

Play anything they want, if you always wanted to be a draenei lock, a gnome druid, or worgen monk, then there ya go, I know someone personally who always joked about playing wow only if they can be a little gnome who turns in to a cat and claw people’s kneecaps. So hey, there’s a new player right there! Class race combo effects the player base more than you think.

Look however they want, we all saw how many people came in for Shadow lands, and one of the things that actually pushed people back from playing the expansion further, believe it or not, was the fact that they stopped character customization after the first initial wave of options. So many new players came in and actually liked the customizations that they stuck around for a good while and made a bunch of different alts.

Play with whoever they want, 9.2.5, id say if that didn’t come out and give out cross factions,the current numbers would be abismal. How many people have you’ve heard that said they would come back now that they can play cross factions with friends? Quite a good bit, and that’s gonna keep dragonflight going alone for a good bit.

All I’m saying, give players more options, and keep giving em options in a good frequency, and you’ve got yourself a good population growth and keep that number.

[Ambius-wyrmrest-accord]

@Chespin-gundrak

The vast majority of the thread is useless bloat you could remove 95% and it’ll still be the same thread.

I’m curious to know whether or not you see the irony in making a ‘I’ve returned, and see nothing new’ post that added nothing original to the discussion? Or has it simply escaped you that the reason for the threads longevity is devotion to a popular idea?

@Chespin-gundrak

The real nail in the coffin is majority of those players would be playing WoW regardless of their introduction.

@Chespin-gundrak

People are just going to see it as a desperate and weak attempt to attract people to the game and it’s just going to push more people away.

Those are two utterly contradictory declarations in one post, though I doubt you’ll see it that way.

In closing, I should add:
#giveworgentailoptions

[Davalor-dalaran]

Gives tails Worgen

[Albien-draenor]

@Chespin-gundrak

As an example

Whats that? I’m hard of hearing. Sounded like you wanted some examples of what worgen players would like to see for extended customizations for the race?

Well who am I to say no?

Worgen customization list
Still a work in progress.

Customizations:

Tail Options

• Optional Tails, Including a No Tail Toggle, and varying appearances for said tails.

Apperance can come in two parts.
None, Short, Medium and Long sizes.
Thin, Fluffy and Curled Shapes.

• Accessories for the tails.

Rose for the tail, little bits of jewelry for the tail. That sort of thing.

Body and Fur

• Upright Posture.
• Correct Eight Foot Tall Size.
• Solid Black Fur.
• Shaggier Fur options.
• Optional Ears On The Top Of The Head.

Hair and Head

• Larger more visible braids/patches/extensions for hair.
• More hair decorations/accesories (small hats and roses for example).
• Separate Beard options and add more beard styles.
• Mane Color options.
• Heterchromia Eyes for all sides and colors.
• Blind Options for both sides and all colors.
• More Glowing Eye options.
• More Muzzle shapes.
• More Natural Teeth Option (Thinking More like Genn).

• More Ear Options and Shapes.
• Separate Scars from Faces.
• More facial scars and damaged ear options.
• Large body scars/bite marks/claw marks. We’re worgen… like for real.
• Visible corresponding scars in human form!!!

Jewelry

• Jewelry options for male and female.
• Gilnean Rose for our hair.

Other

• Add The Melee Claw Animation.
• A No Weapons Transmog.

Classes:

• Monk

The reasoning for us not having them was tied to our locked in timeline for our starting zone. This is no longer an issue as all players can now start in Exiles Reach.

• Paladin

The Gilnean’s were around when the Silver Hand was made. Let us have our paladins damnit! They already claimed that the curse doesn’t stop the priests from being able to be holy.

• Shaman

Hey it worked for the Kul’Tirans right? No reason we can’t learn. (Also there is a Worgen Shaman in Ashenvale…)

Feel free to ask me to add more things.

[Aatriaa-moon-guard]

Okay, I have to admit after seeing that image of the tails, that DOES look good.

[Albien-draenor]

Best part it would be optional. So if one didn’t like how it looked they won’t have to use it. Everyone wins.

[Cur-proudmoore (Cur)]

Chespin is a bit of a clown when it comes to trolls. She used to complain about how worgen should not be druids, and only were in order to add another druid class to Alliance. Then it was pointed out that neither should tauren and that was their only purpose being druids themselves. She complained about how worgen were concocted lore. The Elune and druid relationship between them and the curse, then it was pointed out all that supporting lore was there when WoW was launched.

Bit by bit any argument made was proven to be crap she made up, and here we are. Nothing added, because there is nothing to add. And in reality never was.

[Echowave-sargeras]

@Albien-draenor

Best part it would be optional.

You would think that is easily understood, but the backhanded jokes show how toxic the Dev team is toward the player base wanting interesting characterizations.

[Cur-proudmoore (Cur)]

I wouldn’t even call it toxic. Just disconnected. The resulting lack of care is the same, but the cause is not. You can get a feel for it by how certain classes play as well. You can tell which are being played by the people developing the game and which are not.

It is how orcs get their hunch fixed while worgen kept the male shark face and angry chihuahua female one for another half decade or so.

[Jean-nazgrel]

@Chespin-gundrak

As an example you walked into a bakery and unfortunately you learn the baker really likes baked goods. Do you want to know their opinion on baked goods maybe learn some secret recipes? Any sane person wouldn’t.

Why would you not want to learn trade secrets from someone who is passionate about their craft? Would you prefer an apathetic baker? I don’t understand.

[Asheru-elune (Asheru)]

Lets avoid insulting Chespin. Yes they have been attacking me but that’s between me and Chespin. I don’t want this thread to be full of insults and attacks, rather let us focus on getting the optional choices and customization for Worgen we would like to see. If there are those who hate me because I am a furry in there mind so be it but that isnt a conversation for this post.

@Albien-draenor

Body and Fur

• Upright Posture.
• Correct Eight Foot Tall Size.
• Solid Black Fur.
• Shaggier Fur options.
• Optional Ears On The Top Of The Head.

Not the only one calling for a lore correct size.

[Azmyst-deathwing (Azmyst)]

@Turbokilla-caelestrasz

Can anyone translate this for me? Cheers.

Yeah I got you.

@Zengin-mankrik

You antis (against customization) used to say the same thing when we asked for high elves and yet here we are.

Why does it bother you so much?

Give us worgen tails, we want them, blizzard should ignore toxic antis.

[Aatriaa-moon-guard]

I didn’t care anything about this issue at all,
until i saw someone post a pic of what they’d look like WITH tails,
and now what has been seen, cannot be unseen. Now i join the chorus:

GIVE WORGENS TAILS! Now that i’ve seen what it could look like, me likey!

[Leyami-moon-guard (Leyami)]

@Asheru-elune

Lets avoid insulting Chespin. Yes they have been attacking me but that’s between me and Chespin.

Unfortunately, Chespin’s negativity isn’t aimed at just you. Their self-reintroduction to this thread was disdainful and dismissive of the entire effort to convince Blizzard to add appearance options for Worgen.

@Asheru-elune

Not the only one calling for a lore correct size.

In all honesty, I can’t say I’m a big fan of increasing my character’s height. I’m already on the tall side in comparison to other races, and if you’ve ever played a Tauren, you know that their run animation seems so ssslllooooooooow. I wouldn’t be against other players gaining a greater stature…to each their own (which is sadly not an attitude shared by our detractors)…but I’d hope that was also an option.

[Maurdeth-moon-guard (Maurdeth)]

@Leyami-moon-guard

I can’t say I’m a big fan of increasing my character’s height.

But I can.
Would mean I get to stay big without needing to waste a buff slot on giant growth.

[Tiffany-ravencrest]

@Azmyst-deathwing

Wikipedia isn’t a valid source.

[slash me] makes a cup of coffee, sits down and settles in.
Ok then, make your case that Wikipedia is not a valid source.

[Albien-draenor]

@Leyami-moon-guard

In all honesty, I can’t say I’m a big fan of increasing my character’s height.

I would like it to be an option.

I’m a big fan of not taking away what is to give what is requested.

So in my world you’d have a size toggle for Worgen. (Honestly I can think of applications for most races along that line too.)

@Tiffany-ravencrest

Ok then, make your case that Wikipedia is not a valid source.

Its often full of errors and inconsistencies. Its a good start and often has its own sources which you can dig deeper into for the material in question but ultimately its a poor stand in for a good primary source of information.

Wikipedia often will not hold up to scrutiny beyond a baseline understanding of any particular topic which is one of the reasons most of your teachers in college either won’t accept wikipedia alone as a source or allow it at all.