Which is weird considering blood elves never used fel.
Big if. Because it didn’t happen like that and pretending it did retroactively is just dishonest.
Not in a remotely even fashion. While an entire faction was added with zones and a city was added to one a single questing hub was added to the other. It’d be like saying wolf mounts aren’t largely a Horde thing because of that one Alliance wolf mount.
To be fair, he’s not unjustified in his decision. It’s not like Void magic hasn’t got a long history of making people cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs. What’s he supposed to do?
‘Oh yea sure go ahead and mess around with Void magic! I’m sure it can’t possibly have any dangerous or deadly consequences, what with our newly cleansed Sunwell being a font of Holy energy that kind of reacts poorly to Void magic.’
Ask CDev Round 3 answers.
Q: How did the blood elven fel eye glint become so widespread? The Warcraft Encyclopedia suggests that Rommath only taught the blood elves of Azeroth about how to siphon arcane magic, as most of the populace would likely be “horrified” if they knew the true extent of Kael’s dealings with Illidan.
A: The situation regarding blood elf eyes is, in fact, extremely similar to that of the green skin of orcs: just being around heavy use of fel magic turned the eyes of the blood elves green. You could be the most pious of priests or most outdoorsy of Farstriders, chances are, if you were a high elf in Quel’Thalas or Outland following the Third War, you were around fel energies, and your eyes would turn green. Like the orcs’ skin color, such an effect would take a very long time to wear off. Fel magic works a bit like radiation in this sense; it permeates the area and seeps into anything in the vicinity. Anything near a source of fel magic shows signs of slight corruption, it just so happens that high elves and orcs manifest it in a very visual way.
I feel like this topic has gotten out of hand from what it was truly meant to be. A wish to have natural hair colours like one of the factions leaders Alleria Windrunner.
I don’t think this needs to be taken in a lore reason because with the addition of blue eyes for both blood elves and high elves. From a customisation option it seems blizzard has said “you are two sides of the same coin”.
Why lore is always a factor there will always be an excuse why not, and there was always one. From a purely customisation point: why not?
It feels like fighting over apples and oranges, they’re both fruit.
Do I think we should get the blood elf hair colours?
Yes.
Do I think we should get the hair styles?
No.
Apart from blue eyes, you don’t share any features that makes the “visual traits” from regular blood elves which is the green eyes as what’s been depicted in chat.
Make them similar but keep the more defining things like hair and eye colour separate. Hair colour is such a generic thing.
I don’t think the goal is to steal or completely identical this is why the void tendril hair is a thing.
If can’t have natural colours I think at least more muted pastels that actually don’t clash completely with the natural skin would be nice.
I speak to op all the time and I can say with a fair amount of confidence that’s not why he made the thread.
“Under the tutelage of Illidan, Kael’thas acquired radical new methods by which to sate the elves’ ever-present magical addiction—including the siphoning of magic from external sources, including demons.”
https://wow.gamepedia.com/Grand_Magister_Rommath#The_Third_War_and_aftermath
So, I made a mistake in overestimating their reliance on demons. However, the thing that Kael’thas taught them, the big issue that resulted in the High Elves being exiled, was their siphoning magic. And, they did siphon magic from demons, and those floating, green crystals around Silvermoon are fel crystals, and you can see elves siphoning from them.
https://wow.gamepedia.com/Fel_crystal
The quote posted does confirm that ambient Fel can cause the change. However, it’s just as canon that High Elves retained their blue eyes. So, perhaps it’s that there wasn’t enough ambient fel radiation in Outlands to turn their eyes green, for whatever reason.
And again, this was “ambient radiation” from Fel Crystals scattered throughout their homeland. The difference could very well be the difference between “ambient radiation” of the sun and “ambient radiation” of standing within a few yards of a spent nuclear power core. However, these numbers aren’t known, but that’s my best guess.
I’m saying that there were Alliance-aligned Thalassians introduced. They weren’t playable. There were also Horde-aligned Thalassians intorduced. They were playable.
I said if both had been playable, then we wouldn’t be having this discussion, because there’d be no need for Void Elves to have natural hair colors.
Okay, yes. The Allerian Stronghold is small, but it’s also canon. I didn’t say they were of the same magnitude. After all, the canon even says that only 1% of the Thalassian population remained with the Alliance. And, in the expansion immediately after, the Silver Covenant was added as an entire faction.
I also didn’t mention the Quel’danil Lodge, which was added as an Alliance-friendly location as far back as Vanilla.
We can argue over how “important” the size is, but frankly… As I’ve said before, numbers haven’t mattered when considering adding in race options.
After all, people have wanted Mag’har since Burning Crusade too, and their involvement only amounts to a handful of quest hubs too:
https://wow.gamepedia.com/Mag%27har_(faction)
No, I legitimately just want natural colors for void elves, so we can play Alliance-aligned high elves. I have several friends who want to play them. I don’t personally, but I sympathize with them, and do get frustrated seeing Blizzard continue to add High Elf NPCs to the Alliance while barring the options from their players, and spouting things like, “If you want to play a high elf, go Horde!”
I don’t recognize your name, so if you do know me, you must be posting on an alt.
I dunno if you noticed but we killed Kael for sucking on Fel. Twice.
Which were used to power the elves’ arcane structures that had previously run on the Sunwell’s latent arcane energies. This is stated in the BC behind the screens DVD. They were not used for the majority of elves to tap into, though potentially warlocks might have. Either way, the fact they’re still there is an artefact of BC and wouldn’t be present anymore.
Which is completely different to Pandaren.
You did, by suggesting that Thalassians were introduced in the same manner as Pandaren. A neutral race equally shared by the factions.
Tbh there’s two of these threads up and I know the other guy.
You cannot tell if this character is a void elf or blood elf except by the color of the name tag. Seriously there is no difference with a helm on you can’t tell. There is no reason to deny high elves from the alliance just rip the band aid off and be done.
It’s almost like high elves should have been a neutral race and blizzard compounded the error when they made the silver covenant very clearly alliance favoring. It’s almost like void elves were a dumb idea in the first place when what alliance wanted and has wanted since beta were high elves.
Kael’thas was killed because he betrayed his people and sided with the Legion. Not just because he was using Fel.
I read a bit more into it, and you’re correct. I misunderstood the lore. Didn’t read close enough.
Kael’thas learned to siphon magic from Illidan. He taught that to his followers on Outland, who also siphoned from demons. Rommath took the lessons to Quel’thalas. There, the elves who remained in Quel’thalas siphoned from mana-bearing creatures. They set up the fel crystals to power the city, and that is what caused them to mutate.
I had assumed there was a connection between, “Kael’thas teach people to siphon from demons” and “fel crystals”, but it’s more of a coincidence of sorts.
I’ve already addressed this in previous posts.
Tbh, I normally post in Story forums, and butt heads with a guy that is a Human DK with the same mog as you, and I thought you were just him on an alt lol
I wouldn’t mind seeing void elves having some natural hair colors. The game doesn’t have to be limited by lore alone. Night Elves being mages? from a lore perspective, I’m not seeing it.
You give each side different hair options and different natural colors and you go from there.
I mean if you think about it. We have giant fire breathing lizards that shouldn’t be able to fly. But for some really odd reason, a hair color is like making a deal with the devil?
Even in PVP, it’s not going to matter what the other player looks like. It’s not like a team mate is going to see someone with a red name tag and be like, “OMG! that could be my ally even though I’m alliance and it say’s Blood Elf. Maybe the game is wrong and it is meaning Void Elf.”
Does anyone actually take the time to check out their opponent in PVP?
hes Guzzles alt ^^
Technically I’m Guzzle’s main.
Next you’re gonna say: Velf paladins blizz pls make it happen!
You should know I’ve always said they don’t make sense. The only way they’d make sense is by making a Paladin class skin named Void Knight, ie, the Paladin class, but with Void spells instead of Light.
These hair colors would do nicely.
I would love these. They’d be more subtle than the Blood Elves golden blondes and fiery reds, which would be more appropriate for both Void Elves and High Elves.
I’d also like a powder blue, a light violet and a Void tinged silver color, similar to Alleria’s Void Form to help bring up the color range while reinforcing the more unique part of the Void Elves racial identity.
And as far as Void Elf Paladins go, they don’t make sense for Void Elves themselves, but if the playable Void Elves are meant to encompass both Void Elves and Alliance High Elves, then they would obviously be representative of the High Elves lorewise and the rest would simply be player agency/game mechanics.
guess we gotta delete pandas then