and where does all this “QoL” stuff end? I’ll tell you where it ends: the dumpster fire known as retail. we play classic to get away from this stuff. please stop trying to change the game.
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I said making things easier. Not a raid boss. Again you seem to be very good at arguing when you get to put the words in the other persons mouth!
I don’t have to present facts; all I have to do is state why I think it’s a decent feature to shoe horn into the game considering we have god damn boosts which are far beyond any QoL we could actually ask for
3 hours extra of work to get a level 58 or like weeks of play time
There aren’t enough negatives to outweigh how damn good that feature is
I mean… yeah. No one came to classic thinking, “Oh boy, now this will be a challenge!”.
You played to get away from that stuff
You’ve got boosts
You’ll get tokens soon
The genie bottle hasn’t had its lid removed; the bottles been smashed
Great. We agree boosts are good. Now if you can start thinking about how this thread is about dual spec and not boosts then you will finally join the conversation.
The game got HARDER over the years, not easier. Cataclysm dungeons and raids were HARDER than WoTLK and the game dropped in popularity.
One is how much you level and spend time playin your character. The other is choices you make along the way that affect the gameplay for yourself and others. If you can’t understand that you shouldn’t be arguing for it. It’s that simple.
I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT KILLING BOSSES INSIDE A SCRIPTED INSTANCE. CAPS SO YOU CAN READ IT SINCE YOU CANT READ. Thanks.
If boosts are good then how the hell is dual spec not good?
What is this logic
“in for a penny, in for a pound” is not an argument. just because blizzard sacrificed some of classic’s integrity to do a cash grab with boosts doesn’t mean we suddenly have to fundamentally change the game with things like dual spec.
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I literally just typed it lol. Read before typing that’s your issue.
One is how much time I invest before I raid. One is my choices for raid drops and dungeons drops and factors into how other people play the game.
If two people are healing specs. They both bid for an item. If one is dual spec and ones not they just give it to the dual spec person first because they have more options. It’s not hard to understand why is it hard for you?
Why not?
It was a good feature
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How much time someone spends leveling does not affect anyone else in any way. He doesn’t get that.
That’s not really how it works, they’d both just roll for it I’d assume.
I think it’s easy enough to make the case “oh I just haven’t bought dual spec yet” and get away with it
This is actually the weakest reason I’ve ever seen that would never be born in reality
How much time people spend swapping specs doesn’t effect anyone else in any way then
except it does, as it has already been explained multiple times. you’re either being purposefully obtuse or you’re just dumb.
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Those reasons are beyond pathetic though
I could easily argue that boosts make it easier for people to reroll to X class then make more competition for your raid slots as people will be able to easily access high level characters knowing they can boost them just do our lands
In fact that’s a stronger point than I’ve had presented to me about people swapping specs like they already can in 3 minutes
I mean, it still kinda does. If the majority of the players just boost straight to current content, it gets harder to find people to level and run low level dungeons with. Not the end of the world, but it still makes Azeroth a lonelier place.
I get the appeal of dual-spec.
For those of us arguing for authenticity, consider this analogy.
A vintage car can be restored to original condition and appreciated by some as such, OR it can be souped-up hotrod-style, and appreciated by others as such. Both have value, both have their respective fans. Some advocates for authentic Classic and TBCC discount the value and appeal of dual-spec to others and vice versa…but I’m not sure why the pro-dual-spec folks seem to think that advocates’ argument for authenticity is valueless and/or requires anything more substantial. We KNOW it’s more difficult/tedious/costly to play without the QoL changes made over the years…but many of those changes took the game we love and made it (dare I say the word) Retail. Get it now?
EDIT: Apparently I didn’t get it. Fixed for grammar (hopefully!)
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