Give us a GDKP server

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@Enhmypants-crusader-strike

Your argument hinges on the assumption that removing GDKPs meaningfully disrupted RMT, but you fail to prove that Blizzard’s decision had any real impact on gold selling operations. Let’s break it down:

1. “Shifting RMT Proves GDKPs Were a Key Driver” – False Equivalence

You argue that because RMT adapted after GDKPs were banned, that somehow proves GDKPs were a key pipeline. But adaptation is not proof of causation—it just proves that demand for gold exists independently of any single system.

• If GDKPs were such a critical laundering tool, why didn’t bot activity decline after their removal?
• If the economy shifted to other gold sinks immediately, then GDKPs were not the backbone of RMT, just one outlet among many.
• Cutting off one method of distribution does not inherently weaken an entire economy—it just redirects transactions elsewhere, proving demand is the real issue, not the system itself.

2. Your “Harder to Launder Large Sums” Argument Ignores Alternative Gold Sinks

You argue that removing GDKPs made it harder to launder large amounts of gold weekly, but that ignores the numerous other ways RMT operates:

• Boosting services, where buyers funnel gold into carried runs instead of raid auctions.
• Auction House flipping, which allows discreet transfers through artificially priced items.
• Private gold trades, which bots facilitate without structured raid environments.

If the purpose of banning GDKPs was to eliminate easy laundering methods, then it failed—because gold sellers immediately adapted without issue. The demand never disappeared, it just shifted, proving that GDKPs were not the root issue, just a visible method of transaction.

3. “GDKPs Were Just for the Richest Players” – False Narrative

You frame GDKPs as pure pay-to-win, but that’s a convenient oversimplification:

• Players earned gold through farming, professions, and smart trading—not just purchases.
• GDKPs allowed controlled loot distribution, ensuring rewards went to those willing to invest time and resources, rather than random rolls or biased loot councils.
• DKP inflation, biased loot councils, and roll systems all have flaws, but you ignore them entirely to frame GDKPs as uniquely damaging.

If GDKPs were truly only for whales, then why were they widely used by non-RMT players to fairly distribute loot? You don’t address the actual advantages of structured distribution, instead opting for emotional framing.

4. “Blizzard Didn’t Ban Gold Sellers, Just GDKPs” – You Prove My Point

You acknowledge that Blizzard didn’t go far enough—but you act like removing one tool was some major victory when the actual problem wasn’t addressed at all.

• Bots still exist.
• Gold buyers still exist.
• RMT demand has not declined.

If banning GDKPs didn’t eliminate bots or gold buying, then it wasn’t an actual solution—it was an optical PR stunt meant to appease frustrated players. If Blizzard wanted real enforcement, they would have targeted supply-side mechanics, not just a loot system.

Your Argument Doesn’t Prove Real Change Happened

You can frame GDKPs as “RMT pipelines” all you want, but unless you prove that banning them meaningfully reduced gold selling, it’s just speculation.

• Bots are still thriving despite the ban.
• Gold buying hasn’t disappeared—it’s just moved elsewhere.
• Loot progression is now worse, with more unpredictability and increased loot drama.

So what exactly did this ban accomplish beyond creating a messy, unstructured loot system with no actual reduction in bot activity?

If you want to argue that banning GDKPs was a success, provide real evidence that RMT has significantly declined—otherwise, this is just narrative spinning instead of factual discussion.

You’re not defending GDKPs — you’re defending the single most RMT-friendly system ever implemented in an MMO. Let’s shred this.

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1. You confuse adaptation with irrelevance — classic misdirection.

“If GDKPs were critical, why didn’t bots vanish?”

Because removing a major pipeline doesn’t delete demand — it just throws a wrench in the machine. That’s what happened.
GDKPs gave gold sellers scheduled, predictable laundering on a silver platter: weekly events where thousands of gold changed hands under the guise of raiding.

Without them? RMT has to scatter across more obvious and risky channels. That’s not survival — that’s desperation.

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2. You admit gold buying “shifted” — congratulations, you just proved the ban hurt RMT.

You can’t seriously claim the system wasn’t essential and then say its removal caused a mass migration of RMT to other channels.
That’s like saying shutting down the busiest port didn’t matter… because smugglers had to reroute their shipments through the jungle.

GDKPs were ideal:

• Massive laundering per lockout
• Low detection risk
• Community-normalized
  You don’t get that kind of volume or convenience from AH-flipping or sketchy boosts.

“It just redirected transactions.” Yeah. Like locking the bank vault “just redirects” robbers to break windows. That’s called friction — and friction is the enemy of RMT.

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3. “GDKPs were fair and transparent” is the most laughable cope in this thread.

You’re pitching a system where the richest player buys all the loot as some utopian meritocracy — seriously?

“People earned their gold!”

And others just bought it. The system didn’t care. It rewarded whoever had the fattest wallet, regardless of effort or integrity.

“Other systems have flaws too!”

Sure — but those flaws don’t funnel RMT gold through 25-player laundering parties every Thursday. Only GDKPs did that.

You’re defending a loot system that told legit players: “grind 100 hours or just PayPal it.” And you think that’s a win?

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4. “Blizzard didn’t go far enough” — correct. That doesn’t make removing GDKPs worthless.

Saying the ban was a PR stunt because RMT didn’t disappear is like saying taking a gun away from a criminal is pointless because they still have a knife.

Removing GDKPs:

• Cut off the most visible, reliable RMT platform
• Removed social legitimacy from gold buying
• Disrupted organized laundering

“Show me the data!”

There isn’t a graph titled “RMT died here.” But guess what — neither is there one proving your fantasy of a healthy GDKP economy built on hard work and sunshine. All we have is behavioral evidence:
RMT shifted. Sellers adapted. They lost their easiest route. That’s not “nothing.” That’s damage.

how many more times are you going to self own yourself?