Give us a challenge

You’ve seen the ALL of your raids cleared minutes after release. We’ve seen hakkar killed with all priests up almost instantly after ZG was released. Give us the real vanilla experience… Give us PreNerf C’Thun.

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But, have you seen any of them cleared naked by a group of 10?

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I’ve seen ony killed with less than 5 does that count?

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Was that you?

Seen but not done?

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“GiVe Us A cHaLlEnGe”

The game is explored from start to finish and has every guide on every boss and every strat on every encounter on the internet for everyone to read up on demand and then people wonder why it is so easy.

Guilds already preparing for war effort since day one so ofc this will be a joke too. Its not like in original vanilla you know… when people did not know what was coming next.

If you think its so EZ maybe go in blind on raids if you have never done them before or maybe do not call raids easy that were created with patches way before 1.12

That said, for something so easy the amount of wipes on PUG encounters is still staggering. Firemaw still kicking behinds left and right.

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I do agree, the 1.12 talents/abilities do make all the raids easier that were much harder in vanilla, along with the itemization changes.

One thing to also note is that classic is not actually vanilla accurate either for boss fights. There are mechanics just missing altogether (ex golemagg) and other mechanics that are incorrect (frontal cone instead of 360 degree).

I think the big misconception is that blizz accurately recreated vanilla. They didn’t.

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pre-nerf c’thun was defeated by the internal testing team.

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Then it should be no issue to give it to us and expect us to beat it.

and pugs cleared entire wings of Naxx on the vanilla ptr. mind you that was in carefully selected gear for the pasted characters on that ptr.

tentacles spawning in walls is not good design, and the code might no longer exist.

Your guild takes 2 hours to clear bwl still, think you guys are still being challenged

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Other than the fact that they would have to recreate it.

meh, i like it easy, im old and casual, this is enjoyable for me, i dont want mythic classic

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came here to also comment this. saw a pug of bwl geared randos wipe on Garr last night. With 4 warlocks and about 11 warriors. good times.

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I have not, i was not in them, what someone else did in them is of 0 concern to me.

Not if you were watching it on Youtube.
It only counts of You were the one doing it.

I’ll give you the original release C’Thun, then you can enjoy dying on that hill. Again, and Again, and Again.

You know there is a forum search tool right?
Using it is good.

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OOOOH Sweet guild name!

Will Wipe You On Garr

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Unless blizz creates “heroic” versions of all the raids, a challenge isn’t going to happen.

didnt they do that in retail?

Isnt there like high lev heroic deadmines etc?

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During cata, not current. If Blizzard ever implemented end game versions of the lower level dungeons, I’d throw my money at them in a heartbeat.

Normally, I would never resist more options being implemented but that’s just not Classic.

So they had them in Cata, but took them out in BFA?

I only read about them, i tried to play in cata but i just could not get into it
and i kinda stopped playing, id check in after a while, but same problem, the game was changing more to what i did not like.

No hard feelings, others liked it a lot, and i got 3 expansions full of what i liked, so guess it was someone elses turn.