Give us 1.5 AV or else horde will never win a single AV match

Title says it all. Alliance already auto win AV by default just because of the map alone. Now Alliance get all of our racials for free and ret pallies are now supercharged with massive buffs that have transformed them into PvP gods with absolutely 0 counter since mass dispel is not planned to be added in the next phase.

If you give us patch 1.12 AV it will be a complete one sided snorefest. If you give us patch 1.5 av, we might at least enjoy ourselves for a bit while we wait for the Alliance to inevitably win.

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Basically true. I think I won maybe 10 out of 1000 AV games back then, all because the map/bridge favor Alliance so hard. It was easily the most unbalanced BG in existance. They’ll have to retune the bosses too, because with the crazy power spike due to runes, you might not even need to take a single tower before zerging the boss.

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I don’t agree with the hyperbole but I would like early AV.

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lol :joy::joy::joy: my guy, press dispel. literally every rune buff (vindicator), our seals, vengeance (damage buff from our tree) and blessings are all purgeable. wings is also purgeable, and it prevents you from bubbling for one min after you use it

exorcism spam isn’t a thing anymore, it doesn’t reset instantly from art of war. divine storm is still physical damage and does 10% more than an auto attack

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Then give +80% honor and rep gain to the faction with lower win rate each map

having mixed teams fixes all the crying about factions

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It’s not about faction abilities, it’s about the map heavily favoring the Alliance base to the point where it’s borderline impossible for Horde to win.

Just play D… plan and simple.

Remember the Scorch Earth Meta? If you dont look it up. I hope horde play like that at least for the first wave of ranking.

Alliance absolutely do not win AV in classic, they got owned completely in vanilla after their premades got disabled, the horde just started playing defensively around the triangle and stopped trying to race and won almost every game. Alliance players would get exalted without a single win lol.

Considering current sod balance and horde’s complete dominance in other bgs, i doubt it would change here

they don’t remember it, that’s why this thread exists, its posted by non classic players

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Rank 14 Grand Marshal here in Faerlina. You have absolutely no idea wtf you are talking about. Bad players like you really need to stop commenting. Even after they disabled premades, we abused discord premades and went 100-0 in AVs in our R14 grind.

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Would love AV 1.5…but either way I don’t think AV will be as alliance dominated with Shaman’s being as good as they are.

Send what they got and let’s play ball.

before u call people gray parses u should probably work on your own performance, you aren’t even a top 1% player in sod of all places

here’s 1 thread

https://www.reddit.com/r/classicwow/comments/hs7x79/a_horde_perspective_on_why_alliance_always_lose_av/

2nd thread

3rd thread

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/why-does-alliance-lose-av-90-of-the-time/573918/1000

4th thread

do i need to say more?

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you are a bad player. not a single comment you ever made or will ever make is worth anything. Peak grey parser saying “alliance got completely owned in vanilla after their premades got disabled” has to be the funniest thing I heard all morning.

i edited some links for you in above, maybe u can learn something today “mr 14 rank grand master faerlina player”

i doubt it though

a couple of quotes for you just to make sure my point is made

“alliance in vanilla never won as frequently as horde do now. Look at the numbers: alliance would win 60-70% tops. The current state is a bit 99% horde win rate. I levelled two alliance to exalted with not a single win so that 1% is assuming someone wins at some point”

“Every few days we get the same post about how AV is unfair and the map is unbalanced and that’s why Alliance lose AV.”

are u a fake rank 14? stolen valor wow ranks LMAO

https://www.google.com/search?q=why+do+alliance+lose+so+much+in+av+site:eu.forums.blizzard.com&sca_esv=4cf44482ebf951fe&rlz=1C1CHBF_en-GBGB900GB900&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjs88D1qt6GAxXD7rsIHS2DByUQrQIoBHoECB8QBQ&biw=1920&bih=953&dpr=1#ip=1

hey look pages and pages and pages and pages of posts from these very forums confirming i’m right and u are wrong

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Horde have the most busted class in SoD for PvP and you are crying about a singular map disadvantage?

Horde has cave advantage. why do you need more advantage?

Horde have 100% win rates in WSG an AB already.

I have a somewhat working Patch 1.6 installation ISO for WoW. So it’s out there. But I doubt they’d spend the time piecing it back together.

At best they’ll do like they did for Retail and just spawn in the named mobs.

No more spines. Or Mines. :frowning:

Is OP complaining about Zerg rush?
Have you tried playing a different way or is HPH the only thing that matters?

If he was a HPH guy, he would not complain. Fast loss with killing all LTs is the best HPH, esp on AV weekends.