Why are priests the only healers who cannot interrupt spell-casting? Fix this, please.
Easy fix:
Talent rework:
Old
Tithe Evasion
Shadow Word: Death deals 50% less self-damage.
New
Tithe Disruption
Shadow Word: Death now interrupts the target, a successful interrupt deals 100% less self-damage.
its ur holy and discipline,my shadow is an independent queen,ty
It’s not that simple, unfortunately. This change would include extra SW: Death procs from Deathspeaker and double SW: Deaths from Death and Madness. It would effectively allow a Shadow priest to interrupt 2-3x in a row with no interrupt cooldown. Blizzard would never allow that.
It also has bearings for PVP…a priest’s SW: Death is often reserved to escape crowd control, so in that case a priest would have to choose between interrupting and getting CC’d.
It has long been theorized that they don’t want to give Holy and Disc a kick due to PvP concerns.
However, I have 0 idea why they can’t put a kick on a choice node with say Dominate Mind, Purge, Mass Dispel, something. If the idea is they don’t want them to have too much PvP utility then make them choose which they want so they can’t take it all.
This has made priest suffer for ages because Dominate Mind, Mass Dispel (after the million nerfs to it), and Purge are all basically useless in PvE and I think most priests would trade any one of them for a kick.
Why would they? Other healers have interrupts and give up nothing. Most of them have WAAAAAY more utility, mobility, and crowd control than priests. Why would you suggest something so ridiculous. We need an interrupt. We don’t need to give anything up for it either. Druids have skull bash, and cyclone, and vortex, and roots, and two stuns, and stealth, (all ranged, btw), plus a charge, etc. Shaman have wind sheer, and hex, and lasso, and static field, and capacitor, and roots, (all ranged, of course) etc. I could go on and on about all the other healers. As a priest, I have scream (not ranged), MC, possibly a root (melee-range) , and no interrupt. Literally, every other healer has an interrupt. It makes no sense. Give priests an interrupt. EVery dps spec can interrupt casting, except demo locks. Show them some love, too. Spriests have silence.
AHA! there we go. Give Disc silence. I think I recall a time where disc had a two-second silence. But why not the full version? Give us silence.
Better yet, let all priests choose between chastise and silence. I think that sounds like a fair compromise.
So Shadow would have to choose between Psychic Horror (stun) or Silence? Or Shadow have the choice between Silence and an additional Stun with Chastise?
Why not? At this point you could give priests an interrupt, 2 more CCs and a blink and even then it would be debatable if they would reach parity wkth the other classes.
I think you missed the posed question.
Would Shadow have either a silence OR a stun?
OR
Would Shadow have a stun AND either a silence or ANOTHER stun?
Basically, where does Psychic Horror fit into your suggestion?
Because having 2 stuns that both act exactly like the other seems a bit odd. But having to pick a silence OR a stun would be even worse for Shadow than what is currently available.
Make Chastise an interrupt with a talent?
No I got that, I simply pointed out that the entire class coukd have 2x stuns, a silence, interrupt and a mobility skill and you could argue it would still be behind the other classes.
The “being odd” part of it doesn’t really matter to me, I mean if rogues(cheap/kidney) and shamen(lasso/capacitor) can have 2 stuns I see no reason why priests couldn’t. The mechanics at this point are irrelevant to the fact priests need this in their kit.
Cheap shot is conditional upon being in stealth or Shadow dance.
Kidney Short is conditional on having combo points.
Lightning Lasso is a single target channel.
Capacitor totem is group targeted area delayed stun.
So those are uniquely different from each other within each class.
The equivalent for Priest would be to have Mind Bomb back and a single target stun in the form of Chastise or Psychic Horror.
But having both Chastise and Psychic Horror is odd because they act exactly the same in every way. Having both at the same time just seems very questionable and pointless.
I think from a design perspective, it’s better to have multiple types of tools instead of layering the same tool multiple times within essentially the same spell with no other benefit that is unique for one or the other.
It’s would just become another example of button bloat of similar spells that is already very prevalent throughout all of priest class. We need less of that, not more.
Once again I understand what you are saying, and I don’t disagree with it, but you don’t seem to understand the level of urgency that I am attempting to convey with how much priests need these changes.
If they gave us an ability called…
“Placeholder Interrupt Name”
Just to give us the needed interrupt it would be fine. Atm priests simply needs these abilities NOW. They can work out design flavor later for all I care as long as the class has what it needs to function properly right now, this second, at this moment, as soon as you log on, etc etc.
All the other stuff is flavoring which while important can be addressed later.
easy fix, make the Silence baseline at the start and reduce the cd a bit( at most mage level of 20 nerfing the blanket to 2s or removing it and it is just a normal interupt with either a node for itself to silence, or strictly pvp talent)
They could simply put silence as is on the class tree with a 30 second cooldown and it would not be overpowered. It has already been nerfed enough.
Or just Make it a baseline class ability like everything else which frees up a Class Talent slot for something new.
I’m beyond of the point of asking for a cake and to eat it too. I just want the Devs to do literally anything for Priest at this point that isn’t spitting on it.
The Priest Order Hall was, clearly, a preview of the years to come for Priest.
Where’s my free class change into Paladin?
I was in a bg and a marksmanship humter interrupted me and then silenced me and then stunned me twice…
We could probably just get an extra interrupt button.
Yes please.
I will happily take it over Shackle Undead which is stinking up a slot.