NO.
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All the time
I’ve played arena every xpac, getting a Rez in arena is extremely rare
Yeah, no need to when youre taking a dirt nap after 30 seconds.
Do you even play your druid?
What? you said their weakness is they couldn’t rez in arena. Rezzing in arena is super rare, the main weakness of druid in arena is no magic dispel.
I’m not sure what you’re on about, or if you’re just mashing random words into your keyboard
My retail druid? Not since early shadowlands
Battle Res would like a word with you.
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No, this makes it cooler to have a hybrid class handy and creates a little bit of flavorful synergy. Stop expecting every class to have everything, this is why retail PvP sucks so much butt.
It never bothered me not having a regular on-demand rez spell as a Druid - either back in the original days or now in the “Classic” versions. The older versions of the game are what they are, for better AND for worse. Besides, running back to a dungeon if needed after a death is no big deal IMO.
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You literally don’t understand the point of classic… the goal is to take the BEST ideas from the older versions of the game, and apply those philosophies as best as we can to get the best version of the game.
Applying the LATEST logic retroactively doesn’t make any sense, then you’d just end up with retail.
SOMETIMES there is newer design logic that seems like it actually does fit in with Classic principles in specific areas, or more like new technology that allows us to adhere to the old visions better… so great, go for it then.
Wrath in design terms for many players was the beginning of the end though. There are a lot of reasons why it was the peak sub-base, doesn’t mean they didn’t also make mistakes in wrath. I usually say wrath is the MAXIMUM amount of homogenization I can stand in WoW, but the fact that they started down that path had later consequences (especially once you combined homogenization with pruning, because that brought classes even closer to eachother).
Some negative elements of wrath won’t really be feasible to remove if/when we get to Classic Wrath, but that doesn’t justify them, or mean we should drag them back to TBC any earlier than we have to.
Good gamers play effectively within the constraints of the game, they don’t petition the developers to remove constraints in order to play effectively.
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Well said, it seems the real game now is played on these forums.
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And it’s pvp.
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Except you missed the part where Druids initially had Revive pre-1.0 but removed it because they were afraid a stealth class with a rez would be too exploitable. We’ve now had 7 expansions with Revive because they realized it wasn’t so bad.
Turns out there’s nothing wrong with Druids having Revive in Classic or TBC. These are the same arguments people had bad in the 1.x and 2.x. Why can’t we have a go at TBC Classic with a Druid that can fulfill the healer role on it’s own? It’s not even a matter of “git gud” but most people will not take a druid healer for dungeons. I don’t care how many people in here claim they don’t have issues finding groups, or suggest bring a paladin/shaman/priest, I literally get turned down for groups on my Druid multiple time a day, still. All through Classic, all through TBCC so far it’s been the same. No problems getting a group on my other classes that can heal, just Druid, all because Druid doesn’t have rez.
Agreed.
Druid, jack of all trades, master of none.
“A jack of all trades is a master of none, but oftentimes better than a master of one.”
Yet people will turn you down from dungeon groups because you lack a normal rez, something other healers don’t have to deal with. Some might be willing to build around a Druid healer by bringing a Shaman/Paladin/Priest for their rez (which doesn’t require any special talent or cooldown) but many are not so accepting.
Because that’s clearly not how TBC envisioned druids, and furthermore, it is GOOD MMO-design to have classes depending on eachother to compliment and fill gaps. If your argument is that druid should be able to fulfill the healer role all on it’s own, that’s just bad logic… because the next step in that (and WAS in Catacylsm? I believe) to homogenize dispels… which further reduced the uniqueness of each healer.
You started to see the consequences in arena, less diversity of comps because when you homogenize instead of specialize… people bring the guy that does the best numbers, and it’s highly unlikely that you will be able to keep numbers the same across the board. Besides, it’s just a boring way of balancing anyways.
What are you talking about?? HoTs are amazing for a bunch of situations, abolish is the best poison dispel in the game, de-curse is good. Druid throughput is good, MOTW is good… I’ve literally not been in a single group that wouldn’t take a resto druid. Healers are scarce enough that what you’re saying doesn’t make any sense.
If you’re having a personal issue finding groups then I’m guessing you just have a bad reputation on your druid or something, or consecutively bad luck. The only instance I can think of are melee cleaves lacking an enhance who feel they want to bring a resto shaman for WF… trust me, I get way more discriminated against for being an arms warrior when people want a mage to spam poly lol… there’s no way people care THAT much about which type of healer except in specific dungeons maybe where magic dispel is more valuable and they’re lacking an spriest / ret etc.
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it literally does, and it literally did, constant quality of life changes that made every slightly difficult element of the game easier is what led to retail, so long as you’re not wasting hours on trivial tasks, suck it up and stop whining. OR GO PLAY RETAIL.
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I agree that there’s nothing wrong with Druid healing output, and most dungeons I do run we generally have no deaths. I still get turned down or ignored when forming a group as a healer, or try to join as healer. It’s not a reputation thing. We’re also not talking about changing debuff removal. 3/4 healing classes have a normal rez. You want to talk about how TBC (and vanilla for this instance) envisioned Druids? They were afraid stealth + rez = exploits.
You want to sit here and tell me you’re more discriminated against; you aren’t missing a taunt or threat generating abilities as a tank, and you have 2 DPS specs that perform their role without lacking. Imagine if Blizzard was afraid Warriors would generate too much threat and Taunt and trivialize raid/dungeon content, so they left you with only Mocking Blow.