This has already happened it’s just not reflected in game yet.
Tree houses with shingle roofs accented by vines growing around stained glass windows. I would very much like to see how they texture that.
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But they didn’t. As said upthread, the Forsaken never pushed further south into the peninsula than Gilneas City, and when the player visits Gilneas after the Forsaken have been pushed out - either during the Forsaken levelling quests or the rogue dagger questline - those areas formerly held by the Forsaken are explicitly not a blighted wasteland, and are inhabited either by the GLF or those cursed by Creed.
There exists no source for it being retconned - that’s a forum meme - and the war table missions confirm it’s status as stated during Blizzcon: that the Alliance holds it and the Forsaken are attacking it.
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Was it though?
I’m pretty sure Gilneas was there at launch, we just didn’t see any of it until much later. Stromgard was just a minor quest hub before that.
It was just a wall with almost nothing behind it. They didn’t build the city we see now until Cata. Stromgarde was actually an entire full garrison you could quest through.
Here’s what Gilneas was before Cata:
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/906234294333218826/928150241138593852/IMG_8850.png
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/906234294333218826/928150264769294346/IMG_8852.png
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Sure, Gilneas wasn’t PHYSICALLY in the game, but as the story went, it existed.
The wall was always there, and the area just outside was filled with Worgen and included Shadowfang Keep. While we didn’t understand the connection at the time, it was eventually made clear once Gilneas was finally fleshed out in Cata.
Gilneas existed even if it wasn’t accessible. I was just making that distinction.
Which is what I was referencing.
honestly i fully expect the undead to make Gilneas their new Capitol >.<
id lov for a huge story where Alliance reclaims it but for the sake of map “balance” horde need another Capital in Eastern kingdoms. so i assume that’s what will happen :’(
I’d love to see Gilneas but I’d rather see “2 forms” mean “you can toggle which form you are in at will” and not “you are furry boy all the time in combat.”
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What? I get that it isn’t reflected in game and that is 100% Blizzard fault.
Alliance have pretty much had control over it since cata not too long after the city fell. There is a questline new forsaken players went through that explained this as well back then.
As of BFA close to 90% of Silverpine Forest is under heavy alliance control with Darius Crowley and The Bloodfang Pack having complete control over Fenris Isle and even pushing as far as Hillsbrad. This was all explained during the Battle of Lordaeron.
There is absolutely no way the Forsaken are getting Gilneas.
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I think it would be cool if they decided to turn Gilneas back into a hub city, but because Genn wants to pay it forward to the Night Elves, he can invite them to join the Worgen back in Gilneas.
Would be kind of cool TBH.
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Worgen need to join the Horde.
They are monsters.
I think that there was a book or something set just before the events of BfA that had Genn Greymane mention that Gilneas is an abandoned ruin or something like that. There’s also the Worgen Heritage questline where it seems to be implied that Gilneas is still not reclaimed by the Gilneans yet.
But there was an obvious push by some of the devs for the Gilneans to finally reclaim Gilneas, however. Worgen characters found in Stormheim hinted at Gilneas being in the process of reclamation and of course there was the BfA trailer and the Blizzcon event panel that pretty much stated that Gilneas would be reclaimed by the Gilneans during the events of BfA. The war table missions also hint at a reclaimed Gilneas.
I think Gilneas should have been reclaimed by the Gilneans, but for some reason or another, it seems that someone somewhere decided to abandon the idea late in BfA’s development. My guess is that Alex Afrasiabi was somehow responsible for keeping Gilneas an abandoned ruin in the lore despite the wishes of other devs. Maybe Gilneas will finally be reclaimed in the official lore now that Afrasiabi is no longer at Blizzard.
On a side note, I believe they also said that the huge cannon in Bilgewater Harbor would be used by the end of BfA and that never happened either. It was probably supposed to be used to help kill N’zoth but was cut from the final draft, likely due to time constraints.
Regardless, Gilneas should be reclaimed by the Gilneans in the lore by now, as it was originally intended to happen during the events of BfA. There’s literally no reason in the lore for Gilneas to still be abandoned unless they’re trying to push for it to be like the Chernobyl Exclusion Zone or something. It doesn’t make sense for Gilneas to not be reclaimed yet due to the war table missions.
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I relly hoped BfA would be the expansion to fix the old world…
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How i wish every expansion would “fix” the old world. Because honestly utilizing old assets is: One really smart and efficient (I really cant think of the right words right now). And Two allows for these old areas to suddenly be useful again instead of just existing for nearly no reason.
Another “fix the old thing” they could keep adding onto Garrisons here and there as they are the closest we’re getting to player housing. Only downside is lack of customization really and needing to do WoD intro. But that could still easily be used for future “housing” stuff.
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It’s called an abandoned storyline. Blizz dgaf just consume.
It’s probably not happening in 10.0. In the updated races pages, a “core” part of the background for Genn Greymane and the Worgen is the desire to one day reclaim Gilneas.
All in spite of the fact that it’s probably never going to happen, and the idea of reclaiming Gilneas will be constantly pushed further and further away because of endless world-ending crises.
Why they just didn’t write that the Gilneans have sacrificed reclaiming Gilneas in favor of protecting other lands from meeting the same fate is beyond me. Sometimes lore needs to reflect the reality of the game’s mechanics and development resources.
I can’t wait for it to be claimed by the Forsaken. They need a nice new home.
When Cata was launched a ton of Worgen stuff was cut because they spent so much time on the Goblin zone they ran out of time. This would be a perfect time to not only save time adding new assets to the game, but evening out a long time imbalance by using what’s already there.
It’s typical Blizzard fashion to ignore things until an expansion makes it relevant otherwise Gilneas would have been made into a fully functioning city at the end of Cata when Deathwing was slain.
Look at Stormwind for example. A portion of the city was on fire for almost 3 expansions until Varian died in Legion.
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