GG Blizz. Serious Fundamental Issues

Are you asking me if i would play a gimped class? I love enough classes to play a non gimped one. Again, why are we arguing classes. This isnt what this about. Stay on topic please.

As soon as you realize they ARE the same, the quicker you can stop worrying about what covenant you picked and start focusing on being your best as what you are now.

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What is your point? You keep saying how it’s so bad and negative, but I don’t agree? You just sound like an entitled person throwing a fit from my perspective.

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Weird how you went with the meta for every single choice where no other covenant is needed :slight_smile:

Ya, sadly, this is as easy as it can get. There are too many things tied to it. You will always be behind if you switch in some way, unless its just a free swap.

Can’t see that happening.

That was to Lanielle.

I just don’t get the pushback, personally. And it’s almost certainly the road Blizzard is going to take. I just can’t imagine them calling it a success when there is a discrepancy of 80-90% of players in one covenant over another for a class.

Why are you responding to me?

Dude, you need to stop. You’re virtue signaling and completely ignoring what I say. I’ve repeatedly said that I don’t care about personal power. But I do care about players who do care about that - and who have to make the decision between power and preference.

Just because it doesn’t affect me doesn’t mean I don’t care about it.

You quite obviously don’t care about other players, which is the issue. I’m not sure I’m the entitled one.

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If that’s the case it is weird, but nightfae is better for hunter. kyrian is better for rogue pvp. nightfae is clearly best for mage but it’s not really, kyrian is arguably better as well.

Do I care at all or think about the alternatives at all? No. I know what I want.

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Which is my Priest.

I don’t care about your entitled concerns, it’s a sweeping generalization to make to say I don’t care about other players though. Most people find me to be a very caring player unless they are toxic.

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Then i misread it.

I am unsure if I have ever had a conversation with you where you understood my point, honestly.

Wonder what is causing that. Is it me?
I’ll take the blame, for now.

Either way, whoever you are or who you care about is irrelevant.

The message is universal.

Unless you are leveling and gearing one of each class in the game and switching between them per content, you are not optimizing the game at a class level, and that’s what the covenant decision is.

Do your best to be what you are, and worry about that instead.

You, or whomever else you think I am talking to.

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I’m talking about a design issue that affects players who are not me, and you’re completely dismissing it because it doesn’t affect you.

Yeah, no, you’re the one not caring about other players.

You cannot switch covenants and play multiple forms of content efficiently.

You choose your strengths and weaknesses upon character creation. Those will wax and wane over time. This is no different.

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moot point achieved.

You already can’t, because “playing multiple forms of content efficiently” would include playing different classes to maximize those forms of content.

Wrong. Several classes play M+ and Mythic Raiding fine.

It could be either of us, or both.

People keep bringing class up like it’s relevant - it’s not. Borrowed power is radically different than a permanent decision, that many players have held for years. The Covenant abilities aren’t really playstyle changers, they’re more raw power, which isn’t inherently interesting. But classes generally play and feel different, which is far more of a decision based on personal preference - I don’t think many players will pick a Covenant specifically because of an ability unrelated to power.

That’s the distinction I’m trying to make. Class and Covenants are not equivalent.

Not optimally though.