Getting really tired with this inconsistancy. (Long Boi Thread)

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The thing that bothers me and I’ve stressed multiple times is that I don’t even care about long boi. I care that this wasn’t conveyed to us. I am a collector of time sensitive goodies. Had I known this from the get-go? I would have worked for it no problem and there would be no complaint from me.

But that’s not what happened. What happened was we weren’t even told by Blizzard directly. We were told by someone who found it on WOWhead, who brought it here, who then got it confirmed by a Blue casually. At the final patch without a word throughout the rest of the expansion. No communication, yet again.

That’s really crappy.

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That’s why I like achievements. I was hoping now that the elite could flaunt their shiny achievements, the rest of us could go along at our own pace.
Edit; instead they’re making the elite even more elite - achievement AND a nearly-removed mount (how often do you expect to see it in the BMAH, really?)

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i agree it was a weird and bad decision from blizz.

But was it surprising? No. It’s part of the same pattern we have seen the game devolve into and a far larger problem with the game which is: how do we get people to play as long as possible and spend as much money as possible. But not using “fun”, they just focused on forcing the player into these positions.

And they wonder why people complain so much on forums and have seen a decline in subs.

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Across all my characters on my account I could afford to buy the mount, but it would completely deplete my gold even if I could somehow get it all to one realm/character.

I’m not sure if I would have farmed gold hardcore just for the mount but it’s impossible for me now. I just can’t imagine the hours farming or the amount of irl money I would have to invest.

I was planning to slowly save up and get it eventually when I had the 5 million to spare on one realm.

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Kind of contradicts what Ion said back in MoP (not blaming him for this) about people play in cycles and that they don’t mind if people come and go , take breaks to do other games or things. Seems like all they are doing now is finding ways to make it so people have to keep playing . Be it gear , new races or even limited time mounts now.

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Are they taking it out in 8.3? I haven’t seen an article actually linked. If it’s on 9.0 then Idk how you are calling a year “no notice”

Of people spend more $ on tokens them the gold prices go down not up. You have it backwards.
It’s probably a way of trying to get token prices in check for people who pay for their sub with them.

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Damn its been a while since i agreed so much with a Green post.

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Kind of like how we found out they were taking Flying out of WoD pre Pathfinder.

Not trying to derail this into a pro/anti flying thread , just comparing how the info for both situations first came to be.

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I’m not spending ~$400 on tokens to get this mount. Kiss my 244 Blizz.

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While I can agree with your post pretty much completely, one must be aware that creating false scarcity is a well known tactic to generate a boost to revenue by many companies. While I’m not a fan of it, at the same time, I’m not surprised by it. Sometimes I feel like people want to put Blizzard on this pedestal when they are just another corporation like so many others. By all means, rant, protest, unsub, or whatever but no one should be surprised by something like this.

Would also like to point out that it might be inconsistent with mounts themselves, it’s not inconsistent with the overall increase in microtransactions across all Blizzard properties. Granted they said this thing is going into the BMAH but the tactic of false scarcity is fairly consistent with both previous tactics used in this game as well as other revenue generating tactics used in others. We also do not really know if this thing might end up in the cash shop one day as well. Personally, I could see it happening but that might be the pessimist in me though.

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Because they’ve overplayed their hand on RNG. Blizzard has been for years now, trying to figure out how to keep us enticed in content long enough to push out new content.

The question is why have they layered it in 10 layers of RNG to do so? What’s different about obtaining raiding gear now than it was back in WotLK?

For starters, they’ve added personal loot. We also have re-roll tokens for additional chance at loot on any boss we want. Master loot is gone as far as I know, or at least personal loot has completely overtaken it. M+ provides us with similar or equal loot for raids.

They’ve increased the amount of ways we can obtain loot, but are we getting loot faster or slower?

Even with personal loot, the chances of getting gear from a boss are probably 100%. Not for individual people obviously. I’m not sure how the system works, but I haven’t been in a raid where 0 people got loot from a boss. So do we all share chances of getting loot from a boss? Or are we competing in chances for loot against each other?

Even though its called personal loot, I don’t think everyone in a raid group can get so lucky as for everyone in the raid to get a piece of gear, there’s probably a limit on how many pieces can drop from a single boss. In a way, master loot might as well still exist, the difference being you can’t ninja loot personal loot.

At least with M+ we have guaranteed loot at the beginning of each week, so technically gearing up is faster, just not BIS. Assuming of course you can get into a group to do M+'s high enough to push your gear.

The new M+ loot system will definitely increase that speed even more by offering us a choice among random pieces of loot, even if its not the pieces we want, if its an upgrade, and the option is there you can pick it, instead of waiting for the RNG gods to pick you.

I think the idea of personal loot is more of an illusion, but also a protection against greedy people. Same amount of loot drops from a boss, you just don’t get to decide who receives it, unless it not an upgrade and you can trade it to someone else.

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They’re taking it out in 9.0, but the fact remains that all other previously time sensitive things have been told to us that it would be time sensitive out the gate. Mage towers, challenge modes, elite mogs, etc. We all knew immediately involving all of those time sensitive items that we’d be on a time limit out the gate.

That’s not what happened here, and we don’t even know Shadowlands release date. It says on the prepurchase that it will come out, at the latest in December of 2020. That’s an insurance policy in case they run into the same problems they ran into BFA and they can do something about it without having to make massive class changes the week before the expansion launches.

What’s really going to happen is we’ll go through 8.3 and 8.3.5 for about six or seven months and then pre-patch will be announced in August, I’m betting. If they had said at the beginning of the expansion that this was gonna be the case? Nobody would have the right to complain. As I mention above, the only reason we even know this is happening is because someone from these forums made a thread unsure of if that was the case or not, and a blue came in and confirmed it outta left field, and didn’t even follow up with any form of discussion. That’s crappy.

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You are a god!

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This. The fight is disheartening. People want to continue to love WoW but the decisions that Blizzard makes does make that very difficult.

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It wasn’t shared at the beginning of BfA that it would only be limited to BfA.

That’s still “no notice”. Or better yet, it’s more of a “bait and switch” situation if you like.

Either way, it’s a way to get people to scramble to buy it whatever way they can, including getting them to spend money to do it.

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Eh. Idk I guess I just don’t see what the big deal is when they are telling us realistically at least 8 months before it happens /shrug

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Because it’s inconsistent, which the OP highlights. We have never had this late of a notice involving anything time sensitive. We have never had a mount which provided a service such as Traveler’s Tundra Mammoth and the Grand Expedition’s Yak ever removed.

Those two things make absolutely no sense in this equation, it was impossible for anyone to even guess it was going to be removed at all. That’s why clarification from Blizzard is so important. We should have known from day one that this was going to be the case. Because without being told - yes, it looks like a scare tactic employing FOMO manipulations. And I’m usually the one saying FOMO’s a load. But on this one? I actually agree with the masses.

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This is what I just don’t get. Blizzard consistently makes these kinds of decisions that they HAVE to know aren’t going to be well received by the playerbase. Just… why?

What’s the point of removing the mount at the end of BFA with little warning? And YES 1 year (Tops) to get 5 MILLION GOLD is very, very, VERY little warning.

It makes no sense to remove something that is so over-the-top expensive with such a short time notice.

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Huh. I… I actually agree with this post?

But…

But I thought ‘green text bad?’

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Oh it does, it does.

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