“Diablolist” is just such an… awkward… name. Would have been more tolerable without the second “l” but only slightly. There had to be some better choices than that!
Edit: I’ve been corrected! I read it incorrectly, and until now, was unacquainted with the word “diabolist” (probably a good thing?). I have been educated, but I still think it’s an awkward word… even when spelled correctly. Just sayin’. 
druid elunes choosen is boring as hell.
The problem is that the tree itself is bad. Using a different one doesn’t make this one good.
The core idea of it (being forced to use a defensive as an offensive) is just a plan bad idea from Blizzard. The entire tree is built on that idea.
Hi, I’m a Paladin who has played since the beta of Vanilla.
During the DF Alpha, I did a long post on the forums warning the devs that the spec was a disaster, it clearly got its dev time cut short, and if not fixed I’d unsub. It was not fixed so I unsubbed. A couple months later, the rework came. So, I was right. Thank you for admitting it with your actions. That’s why I resubbed.
But now I am here again, warning the devs.
These paladin hero talents are bland, uninspired, passive stat and proc trees. This is the exact same problem the DF talent trees had in the alpha. I warned you then. I told you, stop “avoiding complexity” for one of the simplest specs in the game. Please, provide options for us higher skill veteran players to differentiate ourselves from the FOTM swappers who just picked up the spec yesterday.
Please redo both Herald of the Sun and Templar. The goal should be allowing players variety in gameplay and expression of skill… not to try and tack on as much passive power as you can. That means lower skill players will catch up to my performance without actually improving. That’s bad. It’s like the dev team doesn’t understand how this destroys motivation for your tenured players.
The fact that both ret specs came out as entirely designed around passive procs… really says something about your paladin dev, Blizzard. This is so uncreative and uninspired… Just like the 10.0 ret talent tree. Exactly the same problems.
Good luck, it looks like you’ll need it… Please, stop listening to the “Game 2” whiners. We need “game 1” so badly right now. Dragonflight was too safe and watered down out of Shadowlands fears… But SOD shows us that if you just make a good MMORPG, that’s all that matters.
Please increase Mountain of Muscle and Scars’ size increase to 10% to make it actually noticeable.
And make it a choice node with another talent with the exact same power effects, but it makes you 10% shorter instead. Call it “Tiny Titan” or something.
I wanna be a short queen.
Not really hoping for that, just if they kept it the way it was, I wouldn’t do Oracle.
It’s awkward because you spelled it wrong - Diabolist. It’s a real word.
There’s a spelling mistake on Atmospheric Exposure.
Enemies damage by Full Moon . . .
Should be
Enemies damaged by Full Moon . . .
The two pally trees are much better than the Lightsmith tree. However, all of it feels kinda of underwhelming. Nothing in either of the new trees will greatly affect decision making, gameplay, and rotation.
I think the main problem with Hero talents is that they are trying to blend two different specs that don’t really need to be blended. Each spec serves a different purpose than the other two. Blending it means you take away from the core purpose of what you are playing. I would rather have expanded spec trees or ability to place Hero points into other two spec trees without the need for a new tree. There is really no meaningful choices with the Hero trees.
It does feel pointless like a lot of rental systems and I do not see how they can turn hero talents into an evergreen system so they are stuck. If it is one and done for the expansion then it is pointless to try to learn the new sub classes. But if it is evergreen system then what does that mean for core class identity and the current DF talent trees?
FYI Blizz have clarified that they’re focusing on certain classes first, the reason why druid is often shown first (even in DF talent trees reveal) is because they have 4 specs and are thus more difficult to design.
And yet these are concepts only. There’s no actual testing of this and won’t be any until alpha/beta. They should be showing concepts much earlier so players have an idea where the devs’ are going. At this rate some classes won’t be seeing concept previews they’ll only see them when they’re being tested in alpha/beta — at which point changes like the Oracle rework will be far more unlikely.
This is possibly the most pretentious post I’ve ever read.
I’m just here for the specs I actually care about. None of which have been shown yet. Still waiting for Arcane, Survival, Assassination, Elemental, Affliction, Enhancement
Aight my quick overview:
Elune’s Chosen : Great
Wildstalker : Ok
Scalecommander : Great
Herald of the Sun : Ok
Templar : Great
Trickster : Absolutely not good
Diabolist : Great FOR DEMO, complete trash for Destro
Colossus : Ok
pls blizzard where is anything shaman related? ETA?
You parse 80 in heroic please simmer down
They’re shaking in their boots
Oh thank god, the game wasn’t doing well without you to grace it.
Fixed, because you speak for yourself, not all paladins.
I never understand the posts that claim that everyone thinks like they do…like…do they think all Paladins are a Hivemind?
that’s just business as usual though!
My thoughts: