Genn Greymane is an Aggressor

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I always though of them as tests. He never officially becomes our enemy. Unless i missed something.
The Warrior class hall does plenty to fight the Legion their own way.

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yeah you tell them

proceeds to summon demons

Eyir is an official enemy of the Horde as of the events of stormheim.

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THIS REMINDS ME OF THE GRAND CRUSADER DATHROHAN AND I DONT KNOW WHY. THE RASCALLY OLD GOOFBALL.

#sass #bodyunclear

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In the recruitment scenarios and in Before the Storm, both faction leaders make a number of references to the fact they aren’t currently at war and war is probably coming.

I just never see Eyir as being enslaved as changing the status quo of our interacts heavily, personally. When he almost gave the Aegis to the Legion pawn anyway.

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what in the world are you talking about?

Lordaeron is just one of the nations of the eastern kingdoms with its own defined boundaries. The ruler of lordaeron doesn’t have a right to her neighbors Gilneas and Arathor any more than the US has a right to absorb Canada and Mexico.

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All your describing here is a hiatus in hostilities not an end of aggression.

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Anyway when you have an understanding with another organization that you’ll leave each other alone, but one of them goes rogue and attacks you, there are some reasonable responses:

-talk to the leader of the organization:
-demand reparations
-demand that the rogue agent be punished

and some unreasonable ones:
-break into the house of someone else in the organization and burn it down with their family inside.

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yeah, and now Lordaeron is the only acting power in those parts of the eastern kingdoms. Sylvanas defeated the gilneans, that’s her right to Gilneas, winning it.
Arathor and the high elves didn’t have a right to the troll lands they were attacking, did they? your logic is flawed, and the Arathor would agree.

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Ah ok, so you’re saying the only right is the right of conquest, then? As long as you’re able to kill your neighbor then you have the right to take their lands?

But in that case isn’t Genn just acting according to the exact same rules as Sylvanas, by attacking to kill her to try to get his old lands back? I’d say he’s perfectly justified, then.

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no, because sylvanas was directly ordered by the warchief to attack gilneas, Genn was ordered to not attack the Horde ny the high king. its not about justifying our actions, its about the consequences of them. and Genn hasn’t had to face any consequence since Cata

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Genn used the 7th Legions and an Alliance ship to attack Sylvanas and her Forsaken Forces (no other Horde races) in Stormheilm, during a war an against the Legion and in the land’s whose main race is known to be hostile.

Genn’s main motivation was vengeance for the loss of King Varian Wrynn, the loss of his kingdom and the loss of his son who had sacrificed his life to save his father from an arrow.

Sylvasnas main motivation finding the means to keeping the Forsaken from dying off as they cannot procreate, she wishes to acquire means to ensure her people’s future but not telling her allies about this.

But overall incidences in Stormheim had little tensions building between The Horde and Alliance afterward with small instances with taking towers, sink an enemy ship for Odyn(shady), and pranks between the Night Elves and Blood Elves.

Nothing too serious until after the war with the Legion.

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that might be what your thread overall is about, but I’m just here pointing out that your statement

doesn’t make sense. Unless you stretch the definition of “having the right” to mean “have the ability to kill anyone who would stop you”, in which case Genn also “has a right” to attack Sylvanas, if he thinks he can get away with it.

Which I guess he did, cause Anduin’s too weak a leader to punish him.

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Darius Crowley is the King that Gilneas needs.

#People’selbow

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I am telling Whitemane about this.
You have become utterly insufferable.

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most of those eastern kingdoms are already plagued, it wouldn’t take a lot for her to take it over. and yes, victory does give you rights.

also by this same logic genn doesn’t have that right, sine he has been bested by sylvanas in battle twice.

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I see, then the reason Genn was in the wrong was because he overestimated himself, thinking he could actually beat the superpowered banshee, when she’s naturally a better fighter and strategist than him. But if, hypothetically, he somehow found himself in a position where he could kill her, then it would be his right to attack her? Is that what you’re saying?

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Whitemane is one of the Four Horsemen now, its really awkward for all of us. I answer to Joseph the Awakened personally.

Cause he’s the only one left.
The Scarlet Monastery is well…
Fisthook: “camelot.”
Guidonis: “Camelot.”
Joseph: “CAMELOT.”

You mustn’t go there, it is a silly place.

#canon #ScarletTolerance #ihavetopushthepramalot

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Yeah, that would be perfectly fine, but if hes going to start stuff that he cant finish and begins another conflict, he should pay for such poor strategy and loss of resources.

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He isn’t.

And yes, he was the aggressor in Stormheim, I thought we already settled that, but the whole faction is held accountable unless he gets a spank from the higher ups, which he didn’t.

:joy:

King of all 36 remaining Gilneans. And a doghouse in Stormwind’s backyard. Dude’s living a good life.

I’d normally disagree, but Genn set the bar pretty low.

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Lordaeron never had rulership over the entire East continent. It had an Alliance with six other nation states, the Alliance that predates the one currently capitaled in Stormwind. But those nations were free to leave and several did just that.

Even when it was whole, Terenas only had the authority to propose policy, not impose it by fiat. When he asked the Alliance nations to chip in for the cost of the Horde internment camps, they all told him to get stuffed.

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