Gearing is terrible and unrewarding because of casuals

No one’s expecting mythic raid loot to drop from WQs. One lucky titanforge every year or so isn’t comparable to that.

Still not a single argument of why world quest and LFRonts rewarding heroic level gear is justified.

Just a bunch “chill” dudes patting themselves in the back and agreeing with each other on how everyone is being silly and childish for wanting a fair system.

No. I don’t care if it happens once a year. I don’t want randomness to dictate what you get. You put X amount of effort and a set Y is your reward.

The current system is fair. Not my fault you can’t see that.

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You only see it that way because you’re thriving off of it lol.

You don’t handle differences of viewpoints well, do you? You go from insulting disabled people, to doing gear bashes. Your char. race not only suits you, but it gives you something to do after losing this discussion. There’s just some people out there, that never grow up…

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Most of my gear comes from M+ and heroic raiding, with a small smattering of PvP pieces. All of that is in the 400-410 range, with one 415. There’s one WQ ring that’s 395, hardly the swarm of 425s you seem to think every WQer has.

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How. Please explain. I have yet to see an argument other than the same people saying literally the same thing.

I just want one of you to muster the courage and admit you are getting gear for literally no effort. They call it welfare gear for a reason

High end is mythic in your view meanwhile heroic and below is low end. Thank you for proving everyone’s argument and how Blizzard blurred the lines.

WQers earn gear around the 370-380 range, with the possibility of gear WF/TFing (a very rare thing that someone might see on an item every so often). I’m looking at my map now and I’m not seeing any rewards higher than that.

Normal raiding gives baseline 385+
Heroic raiding gives baseline 400+. Same goes for M+10 I believe.
Mythic raiding gives baseline 415+.

Seems rather fair to me.

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What does emmissary and warfront reward you?

Emissary, I don’t know. Darkshore Warfront gives I think, a single 385 item every cycle, which is what? Every 3 weeks or so?

Basic 280 or 310 gear for WF.

Why do they bother me? Because Blizzard thinks they are good content and will keep adding them in future expansions, when in reality they are &$!%

They both give 400 ilvl except Arathi which is old and some people were calling for that to update.

Okay. But it’s not hurting you. So, oh well.

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So yeah, please show me a pure WQer/Warfronter who is wearing the same ilvl gear as a dedicated mythic raider. Any one of you, Waterstrider, Aesthetic or Kermore. Until you can do that then your points have no merit.

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The fact that this exist as a reward structure is enough to make me advocate for an actual fair system.

Oh and I forgot about world boss which rewards 400 too and its practically impossible to fail.

I don’t care if you don’t set foot in a mythic raid or heroic raid. The fact that there is another activity which rewards the same gear as a heroic boss which is decent difficult compare to WQ and Warfronts is a disgrace and a spit on the face of raiders.

You’re talking about a single item every three weeks that matches up to a heroic piece. Any regular heroic raider is going to outgear that person. This is speaking as someone who is a heroic raider. Doesn’t bother me, shouldn’t bother you.

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It is hurting me. I can’t play the game because it’s so bad.

This will really trigger them. On my warrior, I will make 310 and 340 gear, and hand it out occasionally to new 120’s. I don’t ask for gold or anything, I do it because I’m a giver. You know how that new 340 gear on that guy is hurting my game? Not a bit. Because I’m an adult.