Gearing is terrible and unrewarding because of casuals

Same here.

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No not really. Go to raiderio. There are tons of people on there who are 420 ilvl that are 1/9 mythic or less.

A +10 is nowhere near the difficulty of a mythic raid. Maybe like a +19 or 20 would be on par with M Mekka, I say this as someone who has done both. People are soloing +10s now, heck, I did a double carry a couple weeks ago where both people stood afk at the start of a +10 and we 2 chested with 3 people. A +10 is about as difficult as a Cata Heroic when they first came out.

So, you are gearing people with the thing you supposedly don’t like? Let me guess gold triumphs everything right?

Like I said, I don’t care what other people wear. I just look at an activity, look how difficult it is compared to other in game activities, and see what rewards each of them give. Then I tell you what activity feels too rewarding or not rewarding enough for the effort needed to complete it compared to other activities.

In this case, spending 30-40 min doing a +10 is BY FAR the most rewarding thing anyone can do with their time. Like if you have the choice to clear the first 3 bosses in Mythic BoD or do a +10 for the week I would 100% say do the +10.

So the fact that no one really responded to my compromise makes me believe that it really is about keeping the heirarchy in the game. The “I do elite content, kiss my boots filthy peasant” attitude that was prelevent in the beginning of the game.

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Of course, most people can’t get 20 like minded players to do Mythic raids.

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Dude, Mythic guilds are DYING for members. Especially those at 3/9 or 6/9 where the difficulties ramp up. Like if you show up every week and somewhat know your rotation these guilds will take you. Mythic guilds are currently folding left and right.

So? If they’re getting there from doing M+ they’re supposed to be comparably geared as people doing Mythic raiding. Because, as I stated already, it’s intended to be an alternative progression path. This is straight from Blizzard. You not liking the fact doesn’t change it. Additionally, Blizzard already stated that if you do the highest content in the game you’re the highest geared. That’s what their internal data shows. I don’t care what data from a third party site shows.

First, why do you think we would care about your opinion of difficulty? Second, are you confused? M10 weekly chest rewards a 410 piece of gear. Mythic rewards 415. There’s a reason it’s lower and that people can’t bonus roll on it or trade it like they can with Mythic gear. And of course you can blow through a M10 at the end of a tier wearing gear that puts you at ~20 ilvl higher than is rewarded for the content. Again, so what?

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Don’t think any Mythic guild would want me, lols. I struggle with Heroic a lot of the time.

I go in with the best of attitudes and try my hardest but my reflexes aren’t the greatest and I do flub my rotation from time to time.

Maybe some are, but not on my server. We don’t even have one successful Mythic guild.

First, because I have done both of them extensively this expansion so I feel like I know what is easier and what is harder.

Second, if I gave you the choice of a 20% chance for $500,000 or a 100% chance for $400,000 what would you choose?

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No joke, Heroic Jaina is harder than M Champion and about equal in difficulty to Grong and Jadefire. Heroic Jaina actually took more pulls for my guild than any of the first 3 mythic bosses. You could definitely get in one, especially as a ranged.

Don’t worry, gear will be rewarding again when classic releases. Maybe the popularity of classic will open the retail devs eyes on many issues of the current game that has been openly and freely critiqued about.

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That’s nice of you to say, but I think if you looked at my logs you’d take that back, haha…

Don’t care.

Personally I’d choose the 9 20% chances for $500k, the option to try twice on them up to 5 times with a bonus roll, and the ability of a friend to get it and just give it to me if they don’t need it but that’s just me. If you’re going to make a comparison at least be honest about it.

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If we are being honest about it the majority of people who have been in Mythic are 1/9. So you would still have that 1 20% chance (2 with bonus roll).

Also why don’t you care about the first point? You are free to give your observations on the difficulty of Mythic BoD compared to +19 keystones. I would love to hear it actually.

This is where you try to narrow the scope of the discussion to a pointless level so you can “win”? Really? Are we talking about those people who hop in late in a tier to get 1 kill in or are we talking about Mythic raiders? Get out of my face with this drivel.

Hah! So transparent it’s funny. Because it’s a fallacious talking point where you’re trying to setup your opinion as authoritative because of your experience and then lead into crapping on everyone else’s opinion because of theirs. Kinda like when you jump on Orctang about his profile because you just wanna crap all over him and you can’t because you can’t access it. We know exactly what you’re trying to do.

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I actually went and looked because I was curious. Your logs aren’t bad at all. I bet you could get in a guild that is currently 3/9m, especially if they don’t have a mage currently. Intellect buff OP.

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Hehe, thanks. I’ll take that as a vote of confidence for when/if this guild ever decides to do mythic.

So you want to tell me my opinion on the content I have done is wrong but you haven’t done it I am guessing? That doesn’t really make sense to me.