Gear > Skill

Doesnt matter because it won’t really be crafted since people expect it to be locked to prot soon enough and it’s gimmicky.

I’ve known about this legendary working for ret since Beta, and a lot of r1 rets knew about it too.

It’s also very dangerous because it procs below 20%, so if you get hit by 15k at 21% you’ll die before it procs. Or if you drop at 15% and then it procs a ww can still touch of death you anyway.

Nah view bots are real and legit, and this is a company that stopped showing sub counts because they’re too scared to show how many they lose. I don’t trust a company that refuses to be transparent.

Year of experience in what? A game that no one knows you in, remembers you in, or cares about you in? Great job wasting your time.

And yet you reply to me crying about the things I say, keep going though. Your tears feed me.

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They only said, that there will no balance updates before AWC.

Not before …” is different from “There will be after…

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The fact that people are still debating whether or not the game they pay 15 bucks a month for should be updated based on a pvp event that no one cares about is astounding.

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The fact that some noobs still think, their very limited experience and their stomach feeling should have an impact on balancing decisions is what I would call astounding!

But we still see every day new topics from the very same persons, unhappy about the pvp state, but no objective arguments at all.

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Can’t have objective arguments with people who are objectively white knights. It’s like talking to a brick wall.

Don’t worry, you can enjoy your diet soda expansion with no updates or changes while most rational, normal human beings will go the other direction of calling out issues when we see them.

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But when someone is talking to you, then you are understanding of course, alert, listen attentively to the arguments and reconsider then your opinion, weight your own arguments differently if necessary, and so on.

Or not? Then please less polemics! Especially since I do not even disagree that skill should have the greatest influence in PvP, not gear!

Like you enjoyed BfA which was even more gear intense and imbalanced? :laughing:

You call yourself a rational normal human being, but posting in this forum and expect a change?

But what you don’t see is, that “issues” is just another word for opinion in this case, while other people might think these “issues” aren’t “issues” at all! To pre-judge them then with being irrational and not normal human beings just because of a different opinion is really irrational!

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I played and lost a game vs a ret using this yesterday. Super annoying.

Yeah for sure its annoying but you can still go through or make another go for sure, its only 4sec, cc healer mindgames or stun ret and he cant heal himself or he dies.

I saw vanguards play into one ret using it on his alt monk and it procced while the dude bubbled. And then procced again when he got sac.
And on next go he got triple RSK and he died before it procs

20% health is just so low right now that you cant rely on this to save yourself. Specially with arms/ww being rampant in meta too and firemage able to do 9k pyro.

In bfa I would have said thats its bonker but in very high damage meta I dont think its as strong

This situation is going to occur after your first big go, so you have already used your stuns, cc, and probably mind games to get the bubble.

We would also need to assume the ret isn’t going to crank out a fat WoG heal on theirself.

Why are we gaming this situation at all? Ret doesn’t need more defensives, neither does holy. With one of those on a team you’re already dealing with bubbles and BoP + offhealing.

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It can definitely be enough to stop a go. Also, the internal cooldown is 45 seconds, so it’ll be up every other go assuming we get him as low as 20%.

Passive defensives are lame already, and when they’re designed for prot, especially so.

It’s called having a discussion, not everything I say on here will become reality. Do you want a crash course on what a conversation or a forum means?

Keep thinking that, most of the posts are people unsubbing due to the “opinions” I listed above so when you find your game empty in a months worth of time, maybe it’ll become an “issue” then.

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Yeah but like I said earlier its buggy, it doesnt proc as soon as you get to 20% it will proc after the next damage you take that get you below 20%.

So if you are at 21% and lose 5% max health it will then proc when you have 16%.
But if you lose more than the current max health you have its not gonna proc.

Obviously all legendaries should be locked to their spec anyway

The advantage of ret over other specs on this locked legendary per spec thing is that ret legendary arent really good for damage increase, thats why they use sephuz over any ret specific legendary and why they can use endless king since it’s not really a huge damage loss anyway.

Unlike boomy that can also use a guardian specific legendary but they lose a ton of damage via their 40% crit legendary when you gain eclipse.

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I see, but when someone does not agree with your opinion like 100% it’s a irrational and not normal human being? Seriously dude.

Any prove for that claim? Any sub counter that shows how many PvPer did unsub and with a neutral survey after why they unsubbed?

If not, then it’s just what you are thinking. Don’t be such a Donald!!! You don’t like the game, we got it, but why aren’t you a rational person then, realizing that it obviously won’t change that quick and you play a game you enjoy more and coming back in case they changed it into your favor (if they will ever do that).

Yes.

Literally read the forums or subreddits, aside from the paid shills and white knights that defend this game with extremely predictable logic (first day sales, “wait till awc is over”, “theyre on vacation”), literally most people are ready to leave this expansion behind.

It’s grindy for the sake of being grindy, the systems favor boosting culture and gear disparity is at an all time high.

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I don’t think the gear problem is massive those pve players r usually horrible and I’m able to beat them on a 180 WW with no legendary ALSO the way the system works is once you are able to buy a full set of pvp conq gear ur Ilvl will be fairly high even with challenger gear

226 duelist pvp gear is nuts and I’m happy blizzard made it a competitive ilvl

Not surprising me at all you :clown_face:!

Oh, because a hand full of guys wrote in the forum that they might quit the game because they are unhappy, you call that a prove?

Enough time wasted, if you are enjoying to be such a stupid Donald, get happy - but you aren’t worthy for any more attention!

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wow magically everything is better, thank god you can beat 40k hp players on your 180 ww with no legendary. everyone can go home now, this guy saved the expansion.

The only clown here is you white knighting this game.

Imagine going to the forums just to invalidate the entire purpose of people using it by saying “hand full of guys”, lmao.

You must have a gold medal in mental gymnastics.

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The pve geared players aren’t the reason u r 1300 player

Dont worry I bought a 2400 boost, i’ll also sit on these forums and lie to people that gear isn’t important while I backpeddle kill them in my opener using my 226 iLevel gear.

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