GDKPs banned in SoD. Let's see how it plays out and if good, do the same for Cata. Or personal loot

I don’t think so. Many players from very high profile guilds just swiped their credit cards for consumables and such before the token was introduced to WotLKC.

Let me ask you.

So you pay for the spot.
But you still have to roll on items, right? And can lose them all.
So you bring your hunter in. Pay 10 gold as entry fee. If that 10g fee does NOT grant you special loot perks, that’s fine. No rules is broken. So, essentially, you’re paying 10g for an exclusive access to this raid. Like a VIP lounge. Or a bounce at the door.

But if you paid 10g fee to get the right to be the only one to roll on some trinket, then it is against the new set of rules.

aka - paying gold should NEVER give you an edge on loot distribution.

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And that’s not what the rules state. The rules are against what Blizzard defines as “GDKP’s”. Paying to reserve an item does not fit their definition, so it’s allowed.

Well, this part specifically states any loot earned via gold is forbidden.
so paying for entry to get exclusive rights to loot is paying to get loot.

Wrong. It specifically states that you have to exchange gold for the item.

Item awarded for an exchange for gold.

You’re assuming it only means 1:1 trade. So you think it doesn’t include pre paid items before the raid starts?

Because from where I stand, it looks like ANY gold trade that grants you exclusivity on loot is against new set of ToS rules.

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No. Only trading items for gold. Trading gold for a raid spot and getting the loot ml’d to you does not fit their definition of a “GDKP”.

But it’s literally the same thing.
Just different words.

Let’s say you pay 10,000 for a raid spot in ICC next week. (just as an example).
And I pay 10,000 for a raid spot

But we both want DFO. Do we roll for it? And if you roll higher, you get the item.

So does everyone pay equal amount of gold for spot?
And someone who wants DBW also only pays 10,000 gold along with everyone else?

and someone that wants chest mail with agility also pays 10,000 for a spot?

What happens with all the 10k*25=250,000 at the end of the run?

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It is not. I pay 10000 and then 10000 to reserve an item. There is no roll, it gets ml’d to me should it drop.
Neither of us exchanges gold for an item either.

ah so you paid gold for the item?

So you were awarded an item for an exchange for gold after all.

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No. I paid gold for raid assistance or a boost.

But you just said you paid 10k to reserve the item.

You exchanged your gold for an item.

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No, I didn’t. I paid to reserve it. I didn’t exchange the gold for an item.

lmao. But you did. What happens if I want to reserve it for 11,000. Do you counter offer it for 12,000 to “reserve it”.

And what happens when the item doesn’t drop. I’d assume you wont get your gold back then, yeah?

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I smell swiper

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That is up to the raid leader to decide. People were doing this for a while now on retail,
Don’t worry they will have to crack down on this sooner than later because people will complain about carry runs. But their definition of a “GDKP” curiously edges around this way of paying for runs and loot.

But tell me

You originally reserve DFO for 10k gold. Can I reserve it for 11k instead?

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That is up to the raid leader to decide. On retail you usually just had armor type spots.

So, essentially, what you’re saying is that it’s okay to pay gold for an item out BEFORE the raid starts.

Well, I suppose you won’t be around for that much longer. :wave:

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It doesn’t fit Blizzard’s definition of what constitutes a “GDKP”. There is no item to gold exchange happening, you’re simply paying for a service.
If Blizzard didn’t want carry runs to happen they’d specify it. Right now as per their new rules they aren’t “GDKP’s” because you don’t pay for the item. You are paying for the service of getting boosted by a guild. Items included or not doesn’t matter. They decide how to sort it out and if it somehow infringes on Blizzard’s definition of a “GDKP” then probably action will be taken. If it doesn’t it’s fine.
Blame them for specifically dodging this issue.