Wrong. In a GDKP you exchange gold for an item directly in the trade window. Carry runs do not do this at all.
They are not going to do anything about this. They didn’t do anything about big GDKP hosts living off the gold they sell for over two years now, from TBCC through WotLKC. They do not have the resources and most likely the skills required to do it.
Stop with your pathetic hysterics as well. I do not play SoD and I don’t run GDKP’s in WotLKC either. This quite literally does not affect me except for having a good laugh at how incompetent the classic devs prove to be once again.
Dude. You have a good one. If you think changing 1 word if verbiage makes it okay and not against ToS, go do you.
I keep my fingers cross that anything that has the word “gold” and “loot” even remotely close to each other becomes bannable.
Right now, per the verbiage used for SOD phase 2, this is exactly what it looks like. Trading gold for any exclusive rights to loot is considered to be “GDKP” in the eyes of Blizzard. You may not like their definition of it, but this is how they define it. It’s their game after all.
Have a good one. Go collect money for selling raid spots and granting them exclusive access to DFO or any other item. If you get banned, don’t come back crying.
Wrong. It only singles out receiving items for gold. It does not mention anything about buying reserves or raid spots.
They made a very narrow and explicit definition of what they see as a “GDKP”. You are bending it to make it fit other activities, some of which I am certain you had no idea even existed before yesterday. If those were included they would obviously make a mention, which they didn’t for whatever reason they might have.
Their definition, as written, means that exchanging raid and dungeon items for gold is prohibited. It absolutely doesn’t mean that buying exlusive rights to items that did not yet drop is in any way banned, because you will not be exchanging gold for the items. It’s not a difficult concept, please try to keep up.
DFO is irrelevant for a simple reason: this is for SoD only. WotLKC is not affected, not that I would really care. Again, please try to understand what you’re reading and if that’s not possible ask someone for help.
I do not care about selling carries in any mutation of classic. I don’t think I will be continuing into Cataclysm and since my guild is currently in maintenance mode as we wrapped up hc ICC there is nothing I need the gold for. It simply doesn’t concern me. I have mentioned this many times and you’re still simply too stupid to understand, or maybe it just doesn’t fit whatever you imagined.
I have spent over 2 years from TBCC through WotLKC playing with my friends on Gehennas EU. I saw the same hosts live off the GDKP gold they sell, I know for a fact many, many “world first” guilds swipe their credit cards en masse. Blizzard does absolutely nothing about it. Either they do not want to which I personally do not believe or they simply aren’t able to, which given how incompetent the classic devs are is probably true.
They will not do anything with the carry runs this change will spawn until they finally wake up and add them to the rules like they should have the moment they announced them.
Organizer Sells Iron bars before raid for a set price. Raiders buy them up.
Organizer uses a spreadsheet to keep track of how many he sold to each person.
People in raid then use iron bars to bid on items. Organizer again keeps track of how many each person spends this way.
At the end of the raid, the iron bars are then split up between the raid. Again the organizer keeps track of how many each person should have.
Organizer sets up shop buying back iron bars for the same set price, using the spreadsheet to determine what amount to buy from each person.
Organizer banks the iron bars and waits to sell them again for the next Iron Bar DKP.
It’s stupid, but there was no direct exchange of gold for raid items, instead it’s iron bars lol. I am assuming their auto detection methods are only looking for raid items being traded for gold.
People will probably not use the above method, but they will find a way lol. Imagine what someone actually motivated to do it will come up with.
You guys arguing how they’ll enforce are dumbfounded. There’s no way to know that in advance without Blizzard telling you, and they won’t. They deliberately leave rules vague so they can selectively enforce. Ultimately, as a player, we’re left in the dark with no explanation of what we can or can’t do until we’re suspended or see others suspended. After which, you just have to figure out why it was done because they still won’t explain it. Blizzard’s “support” will only send you to a giant wall of worthless text, not explain any action done to an account. They are just an all around terrible company.
People switching to items in place of gold might be one solution to Blizzard’s anti GDKP foolishness. They’re going to try a ton of loopholes, just another reason why this isn’t enforceable. Blizzard will either have to A) amend the rule every week to plug new loopholes around it, or B) stupidly suspend/ban most of their playerbase.
I am absolutely ok with gray area rules as long as warnings are given first. Rules that result straight to bans, perma or otherwise should always be black and white.
If the rule is important enough to issue a ban, it needs to be clear and concise.
It’s the right thing to do and it’s common sense.
If you don’t know exactly what constitutes cheating, because the rules can be stretched to inconceivably long lengths to justify a ban because they are so vague, then no one will ever be safe.
While this is 100% true the main reason this happens is because some players try to game the system and attempt to find lawyer’s loopholes. You see a lot of people in this thread trying to do just that. If people just accepted that something is banned and stopped doing anything that smacked of it they’d be safe. If players want to try to dance on a knife’s edge they’re likely to get cut.
Well if you got banned then you were botting? It’s not really a debate lol.
People always claim i wasn’t cheating but in fact they were.
If you bought loot in a raid for gold and get banned you broke the rules. You simply didn’t have to engage in that activity. You are already trying to game the system by getting some black and whites and then claiming you did legal move.
Go to the EULA/TOS and read it again. It’s pretty legally clear.
Eh not really. Blizzard comes out and says “GDKP not allowed” and people try to twist and find loopholes around verbiage are very well aware that the concept remains the same.
I’d throw out 60-90 day bans as you’re intentionally going around the new rule.
Simple. Any loot that results being rewarded via monetary transaction will be a bannable offense. Does that simplify things?
HECK YA BROTHER. All in on 90 day bans…but…- i was trying to be friendly to the gold mongers. That doesn’t actually hurt them if they aren’t subbed more then 30 at a time. The goal is to make them pay for a suspension.
I’m keeping my fingers crossed that Blizz will issue a massive ban wave right before Cata launch, same as they did with Wrath. So everyone who was caught RMTing basically falls behind on leveling/gearing
